10-04-2003 04:01									#1
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anyone heard if there will be another expansion pack after PtW?

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	10-04-2003 06:21									#2
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I *heard* something... I think there's nothing certain yet, but there's plenty people here who could answer this with a little more accuracy... That's just what I heard, just in case.

	11-04-2003 15:40									#3
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I hopes there ones, especially if it included the ability to edit the diplomatic situation in a scenarion and a scripting language

	11-04-2003 16:03									#4
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There is today at 4 PM EST (9 PM GMT) a chat on CFC ( www.civfanatics.com ) with Firaxis employees. You could ask there (even if you won't, somebody probably will) but I doubt we will hear anything else but "No comment" or "It is possible" answers.

	11-04-2003 16:24									#5
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Its a good oportunity to announce this sort of thing

	11-04-2003 17:46									#6
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When was PtW announced? Knowing this could allow us an approximate guessing wheter Firaxis will or not announce something and if a new XP could hit the shelves before Xmas.

	11-04-2003 18:31									#7
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Nah, weren't they working on a new patch for PTW? And suddenly no one talks about this patch anymore. I'd say that they're probably working on their next project, whatever it is (X-COM?).

	12-04-2003 01:09									#8
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Most of Firaxis is working on their 'Next Big Thing(s)'.

	12-04-2003 01:19									#9
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm Most of Firaxis is working on their 'Next Big Thing(s)'.

Let me guess, SimGolf 2

	12-04-2003 02:41									#10
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Firaxis continues to refuse talking about their projects, so we don't know if they are working on a new expansion pack or not.
However, in the chat, Firaxian Barry told us there were no new unit packs (à la WW2 and Medieval Japan) in the works. Besides, Mike Breitkreuz (the main programmer of PtW, and the big guy of the Editor since the beginning) doesn't work on Civ3 anymore.
OTOH, Barry told us it was unlikely any design change comes with a patch. The way he said it gives some hope there will be an expansion one day.

	12-04-2003 08:57									#11
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I heard that Firaxis was working on something involving Dinosaurs.

	12-04-2003 10:23									#12
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Again??!!

	12-04-2003 10:25									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius Again??!!

Oh, they've tried that one already? Never mind. My sources are a bit dated, I see.

	12-04-2003 11:06									#14
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They've had a project with dinosaurs before civ3 but abandoned it eventually (to our benefit, I'd say, because civ3 would have been delayed at least a year if the Dino game had been realeased).

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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius They've had a project with dinosaurs before civ3 but abandoned it eventually (to our benefit, I'd say, because civ3 would have been delayed at least a year if the Dino game had been realeased).

Yeah, thats what I've heard. too bad. glad we got civ3 instead.

	12-04-2003 17:40									#16
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Damnit! Why can they never just give us a straight answer and say either 'yes we're going to release something for you guys' or 'no thats all folks'. Its always the same, it ends up being a big guessing game where noones sure whats happening till the last minute, have I forgotten something here or are WE the ones that actually give them money for their products? So why the hell does it get to a stage where we all end up desperately grateful for the tiniest little scrap of convoluted information? I'm including myself in this btw im just as guilty as everyone else.

	12-04-2003 17:54									#17
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Firaxis has a non-disclosure agreement with Infogrames, so that Infogrames can sell hot news to an camputergaming site. These hot news (the nature of the next project, the existence of a future Civ3 expansion etc.) are money worth, so Firaxians shouldn't give it away for free before they are released.

	12-04-2003 18:59									#18
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Also, many projects are studied for weeks 'till they come to be an "investment", and many ideas from the creation crew may or may not be taken to a next step, i.e., development and programming. It is natural that every project get for many weeks or even months a "we'll see" statement for fans.

	12-04-2003 21:18									#19
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hi ,

rumour control has it there is at least one more on the way , ......


it sound logical , and who knows , maybe around x-mass , .....

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	12-04-2003 23:09									#20
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quote: Originally posted by kentonio Its always the same, it ends up being a big guessing game where noones sure whats happening till the last minute, have I forgotten something here or are WE the ones that actually give them money for their products?

Actually, only indirectly. You give money to Infogrames. They are directly paid by Infogrames . If Infogrames wants the next project to be secret, they are legally obliged to keep it that way. There could be good reasons for secrecy, not least of which is the cheap knock off (can you say, Golf Resort Tycoon) that comes out at the same time cutting into sales.

	13-04-2003 06:52									#21
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Yes thats very true it is Infogrammes not Firaxis. I would like to apologize for the above rant btw I was just having a bad day trying to coax the impossible out of the editor to make my mod vaguely workable and was becoming bitter and twisted about it.

	13-04-2003 07:00									#22
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I'd prefer if they just started working on Civ IV at this point, making sure that it ends up being more "complete" than Civ III was.

	13-04-2003 21:40									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Trip I'd prefer if they just started working on Civ IV at this point, making sure that it ends up being more "complete" than Civ III was.

hi ,


, yes and no , depends what is going to be in it , .......


it would be wise to wait a year more now , due to the latest developments in the industry , ......


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	16-04-2003 12:57									#24
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I agree with Panag about this issue. First of all Civ III should mature a little bit first as then all of it has been sucked up and the development of Civ IV could be done more conviniently. Civ has never been a game series which has had frequent releases of new titles (excluding expansion packs and prodcuts by Activision). I would expect Civ IV at the earliest in 2005-2006, but maybe later or maybe not at all. None the less, I'm fine with one more expansion pack. However it would have to include quite much new in order to be catchy.

	16-04-2003 20:08									#25
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If they started working in Civ4 right now, they would have enough time to develop the game without rushing it out the door and also to minimize the number of bugs in the release version.

	16-04-2003 20:54									#26
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Yes, that's indeed true. Especially now with the latest almost (IMHO) catastrophical release of MoO3 with several quite serious issues and Civ III which had some issues too, plus the much anticipated MP support, I think Firaxis and Inforgreed could try to improve and honestly try to reward the community with a successful new Civ family member.

	17-04-2003 00:31									#27
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Hmm, I'd like some more time to master this civ game first. Say, about 5 years more at least.

	17-04-2003 01:39									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Alexnm If they started working in Civ4 right now, they would have enough time to develop the game without rushing it out the door and also to minimize the number of bugs in the release version.

But you are forgetting that time = money. The longer a program is in development the more it costs. I doubt that Infogrames would be willing to fund a project that was on longer than a standard 18-24 month timeline.

	17-04-2003 01:40									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Rasbelin I agree with Panag about this issue. First of all Civ III should mature a little bit first as then all of it has been sucked up and the development of Civ IV could be done more conviniently. Civ has never been a game series which has had frequent releases of new titles (excluding expansion packs and prodcuts by Activision). I would expect Civ IV at the earliest in 2005-2006, but maybe later or maybe not at all. None the less, I'm fine with one more expansion pack. However it would have to include quite much new in order to be catchy.

hi ,

a long time ago it was mention by Firaxis that there would be an XP if the sale was good , and they met that number , so lets hope they keep promise , ......




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	17-04-2003 03:12									#30
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It's going to be interesting to see what they're actually going to include in a new expansion pack. Just more units, a few new concepts and some extra civs like in PtW? Hopefully not as that would be a slight disappointment and it would stink cash. So what I would expect is something like PtW, but abit more advanced. Maybe we get culture flipping back again to please Coracle. Maybe he would then finally come back.