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Originally posted by CyberGnu
In Iraq, yes. But how about the rest of the arab world?
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They already hate us, but now they respect and fear us more. We are no longer the paper tiger as propagated in so many of their one-sided media.
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In best case, the US handles the reconstruction perfectly, and you are right. But so little is required to mess it up - the minute the first american oil company sets foot in Iraq, the US has lost the war.
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Iraq is so messed up today that just a little improvement will be greatly appreciated by the population. American oil companies can only provide more benefits by investing in Iraq. If not an American company, then who is going to get the oil flowing there? French BP or the Russian Gazprom?
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And with the rest of the Arab world incensed, do you think al-Quida funding has gone up or down because of this? Several hundred arabs volunteered to defend Iraq against the US, what do you think they are doing now? Someone angry enough at the US to risk his life in the defense of Saddam, you think he will just go home and pick up his life where it started? |
Exactly the opposite. Those volunteers have seen what happened in Iraq, and experienced how much they were hated by the Iraqis. That should give them a good lesson about their country's propaganda machines.
A few of suicide bombings by nutcases will still happen though, but with Al-Qaeda and Saddam both utter crushed, those crazies would have fewer means to pull another 911.
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Rogan Josh
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I think most people dislike Rumsfeld because he comes over so completely dislikable at press conferances. Did you see the one yesterday for example? One of the reporters asked a reasonable question, but phrased it a little bit badly - Rumsfeld smiled an evil smile and answered the question completely literally, when it was perfectly obvious to everyone what the reporter meant. Then, when the reporter tried to correct the question, Rumsfeld said 'Only one question each' (or somesuch) and moved on. If he is willing to do that in public, what sort of politics does he play in private?
He somehow always comes over as an evil bastard, and that is before you consider his political views.
PS for CyberGnu: Careful, they ban on these boards for making anti-nazi references.
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Lord Merciless
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Reporters have been spoiled for too long, they deserved some slaps in their face.
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CyberGnu
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of the Virtual Serengeti
Apr 1999
time: 05:27
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They already hate us, but now they respect and fear us more. We are no longer the paper tiger as propagated in so many of their one-sided media. |
Umm, how does that matter to a suicide bomber?
I never heard anyone actually believing the US was a paper tiger. Prior to Iraq, the main anger was due to the palestinian question, and the sheer impotense of the arab world to do anything about it.
Sure, when it looked like Iraq actually could put up a fight, then the paper tiger came out, but not for long...
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Iraq is so messed up today that just a little improvement will be greatly appreciated by the population. |
Economic improvement without political improvement isn't going to cut it, I think.
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American oil companies can only provide more benefits by investing in Iraq. If not an American company, then who is going to get the oil flowing there? French BP or the Russian Gazprom? |
I'm assuming you mean French Atofina (BP stands for British Petroluem) 
Well, maybe we should give the whole thing to the only major oil company not politically implciated: Norsk Hydro...
Jokes aside, I think that for political purposes, it would be best to keep US companies out of Iraq, at least for the time being.
Look, pretty much the entire arab world already believe the US attacked Iraq to get its oil. Why confirm that belief?
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Exactly the opposite. Those volunteers have seen what happened in Iraq, and experienced how much they were hated by the Iraqis. That should give them a good lesson about their country's propaganda machines.
A few of suicide bombings by nutcases will still happen though, but with Al-Qaeda and Saddam both utter crushed, those crazies would have fewer means to pull another 911. |
I doubt it... Al-Quida isn't crushed, only weakend, and Saddam had nothing to do with terror, so that doesn't matter.
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
Aug 2001
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Rummy a hero? When the US war plan was being criticised, what did Rummy do? He immediately starts pointing the finger at Gen. Franks and told the world that it was Frank's plan from start to finish. In other words, if things go really wrong, blame Frank, not me.
Talk about a gutless wonder.
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Rogan Josh
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I was more astounded than mad. That a Jew of all people should advocate using eugenics to try and remove 'undesirable' genes from the genepool seems a little beyond the pale. You may remember what a similar idea once led to.
But this is way off-topic. I suggest you resurrect the other thread if you want to discuss it further, rather than using this one. Hey, I will even be able to contribute to the discussion this time!
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16-04-2003 13:12
I thought of reviving that thread some day, but completly forgot about that. Thanks, RJ .
How apt!
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