20-04-2003 21:32									#1
	Iraq to get Univesal Health Care Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

The US government's plan for Iraq includes establishing universal health care, according to Sunday Morning on CBS and This Week with David Stephanopolis, on ABC. Cool, neat.





Can we have it here?

	20-04-2003 21:35									#2
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Can we have it here?

No.

	20-04-2003 21:38									#3
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We're gonna get it.

	20-04-2003 21:42									#4
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara We're gonna get it.

No, you aren't.

	20-04-2003 21:44									#5
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DinoDoc is right... canada screwed it up for everybody.

	20-04-2003 21:47									#6
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Cool.

	20-04-2003 21:52									#7
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Can we have it here?

Aren't you rich enough?

Why you don't have it? Here in europe it's something normal...

	20-04-2003 21:55									#8
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quote: Originally posted by DarthVeda canada screwed it up for everybody.

I said nothing about Canada. I just said that he wasn't going to get it.

	20-04-2003 21:58									#9
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I think the US should get it

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	20-04-2003 22:01									#10
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We should indeed get it.

It's easier to do in a place like Iraq since they have a clean slate.

However we have an entrenched system that works very well for those who have cash, but leaves many high and dry.

So navigating from point A to point B is tough.

President (Hillary) Clinton tried it but failed miserably.

	20-04-2003 22:03									#11
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do the iraqis even have a large enough tax income to afford it?

	20-04-2003 22:06									#12
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All that oil they are sitting on will pay for it many times over.

Just for comparison, all education and health care was free in Iraq at one time. They would even pay to send citizens to Europe or the US for education or health care.

	20-04-2003 22:12									#13
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you want it in the US, well to do it 'right' like say sweden will mean massive tax rises. i don't think many people in the US want to pay scandinavian taxes, or french taxes, or even british taxes (i certainly don't )...

and that's what it comes down to.

	20-04-2003 22:13									#14
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"Can we have it here?"

We aren't concerned with the threat of Islamist uprisings here, so no.

	20-04-2003 22:14									#15
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Can you imagine the uproar when taxes rise that much?

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i always forget they have oil.

	20-04-2003 22:22									#17
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On a related note, in a recent poll, 6 out of 10 Americans were opposed to a new tax cut.

	20-04-2003 22:24									#18
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thank GOD!

	20-04-2003 22:24									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker On a related note, in a recent poll, 6 out of 10 Americans were opposed to a new tax cut.

How is that at all related to raising takes to Finland or even UK levels?

	20-04-2003 22:26									#20
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Because it shows that people are willing to set aside some of their personal income for the greater good.

	20-04-2003 22:27									#21
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if the average american saw how much we set aside here for the 'greater good' he'd soon change his mind.

	20-04-2003 22:28									#22
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I don't care either way

	20-04-2003 22:29									#23
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Actually, it won't require a massive tax raise. It can be done with a 5% tax on business, which, for most companies already providing health care will mean lowered costs. The Labor Party USA has done a study on how it can be financed.

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	20-04-2003 22:30									#24
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Happy Easter! I'm going off to do stuff right now. I'll be back later.

	20-04-2003 22:31									#25
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As long it is not a British style NHS, It'd be alright .

	20-04-2003 22:32									#26
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Perhaps if you ditched all the corporate welfare you might be getting started on it...

	20-04-2003 22:32									#27
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"Actually, it won't require a massive tax raise. It can be done with a 5% tax on business, which, for most companies already providing health care will mean lowered costs. "

Not every compny provides health care, however, particularly for some lower tier jobs such as McDonalds. A 5% tax on these businesses would drive many marginal firms out of business.

	20-04-2003 22:33									#28
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It's a nice dream but Socialism isn't on the bush agenda the last time I checked.

Besides we went through this before in 1994 when the Democrats had the majority in the Congress, and it was overwhelmingly defeated. I remember clinton making it a big campaign push but after that happened, he completely dropped it.

	20-04-2003 22:33									#29
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Similiar to what Communist said, a Universal Health Care system in the US doesn't have to equal the massive welfare tax state that exists in Europe.

We already have a strong private system so the answer is a hybrid system involving building on the already strong private system and adding in minimal tax raises to support those that go without.

	20-04-2003 22:34									#30
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Just think about how much medicare already costs the US... you want to apply that to everybody? Are you nuts?