24-04-2003 10:44									#1
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	25-04-2003 11:11									#2
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diplo request: offer Feud to ND again, ask for a response in PM. Their forum did not experience a crash, there is no way they can't have decided already what to do with it, they had over a week after their last message saying they needed time.
Stalling is one thing, but time just ran out for them, if they don't want it, they should simply say it, and we will think our thing about it.

DeepO

	25-04-2003 11:30									#3
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Baaaarhoooooooooo! The save is passed to us. Oh God. I'm not gonna see it before tomorrow. Arrrrrrgh!

	25-04-2003 11:39									#4
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I'm about to forward the opening screenshot, but we need to make any production change decisions before I forward it. Screenshot coming in a couple minutes.

	25-04-2003 11:41									#5
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GOW Landed by Whirlwind, and Vox has troops split every which way. This is going to be an interesting one.

	25-04-2003 11:43									#6
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I would be in favor of short rushing the Pike in Arashi. That would allow us to have 9 Pikes between Arashi and Tempest next turn. Probably not enough to hold both for sure if if Vox still has 11 Immortals and will split Arashi and Tempest next turn.

Any information on Vox's troops you can get before/while in the city screen?

	25-04-2003 11:46									#7
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How many Immortals does Vox have on flats? NM my above post, I was thinking a turn off.

	25-04-2003 11:47									#8
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I don't get why GoW would land by Whirlwind... Horses right?

	25-04-2003 11:51									#9
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Lets rush the Catapult in Sandstorm. The one in WW would be good too if we have the cash (take a hp from one of the Horses to help our WC's)

	25-04-2003 11:52									#10
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I'm counting two GoW horsemen by Whirlwind, two Voxian units (led by a regular immortal) by Monsoon, and I think four Voxian immortals 6 from Arashi (the problem being that to attack those, we have to attack cross-river). I'm thinking in terms of having WCs go after the horsemen and Monsoon's two attackers, using medieval infantry however far they can go against the units across the river from Arashi (and also having our WC 6 from them attack them), and then I'm not sure whether WCs or swordsmen should take precedence finishing off the cross-river troops (aside from the fact that it would probably be ideal to finish them off with a WC so Vox doesn't get a target). Vox is giving us a better target than I'd hoped for if they didn't hit Arashi.

	25-04-2003 11:54									#11
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The horsemen are on a hill, which helps their defense a bit. Still, they would have hurt us a lot worse landing on the iron mountain; then we would have had to expose swordsmen or medieval infantry to hit them.

	25-04-2003 11:55									#12
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Anything on Arashi 9 (including road status)?

	25-04-2003 11:55									#13
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Sorry, it has been too long. Did Arashi already had part of the pike done, so it can be short rushed at reasonable expense?

Otherwise, I would favor as many cats as we can spare.

The cat in Arashi would need to attack the stack at A3, I guess our elites takes on GoW's elite (the easiest target), and we use a few elites to take out the 2 immortals Vox has landed next to Monsoon.

We definately need more troops in this spread out attack, but I think it looks nice... we should be able to half their forces in this setting.

One thought: would it be possible to put a bunch of pikes on A2, to force Vox off the mountains? or don't we have enough pikes yet?

Oh, and the force heading for sandstrom is cool, more troops to kill before they can reach their targets.

DeepO

	25-04-2003 11:58									#14
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A9: road has been pillaged, 2 units, one of them the wounded vet spear

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	25-04-2003 11:58									#15
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No, Arashi is empty shields... my memory was playing tricks on me.

	25-04-2003 11:59									#16
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Figured so.

We should have enough gold for 2 cats at 64g each (16 shields left in WW and SS).

	25-04-2003 12:00									#17
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Arashi hasn't produced anything toward its pike yet, so we can't get a pike completed there this turn. I'm inclined to have the cat in Arashi attack cross-river, since its odds are better of doing damage there and if it succeeds, that would improve the odds for one of our offensive units.

	25-04-2003 12:00									#18
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A3: 7 units, A6 4 units. The stack has split off, we should have no problem with pikes, defending both Arashi and Tempest next turn.

So, no rushing in Arashi, unless we have gold to burn, cats are certainly better

DeepO

	25-04-2003 12:01									#19
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Maybe we should switch Hurricane to a WC this turn and next... gives us 2 mroe fast movers to hit their stack coming SS' way.

	25-04-2003 12:02									#20
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How much to rush the Cats in SS and WW?

	25-04-2003 12:03									#21
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By the way, I do NOT want to risk our elite going after an uninjured elite. If GoW's elite horseman gets lucky and takes out a vet WC, that should give our elite WC an excellent shot at victory.

	25-04-2003 12:04									#22
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Save the cat in Arashi to hit one of the flatland Immortals by Monsoon with, or even use it against one of GoW's Horses in combination with WW's so that we get an almost sure kill with our Elite WC?

	25-04-2003 12:04									#23
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Nathan, having the cat attack across river seems a good idea too. But let's, for the moment, keep our war plans to a hold until we figured out what we want to rush

Arashi needs to be visited to rearrange the shields, if I'm not mistaken. Do we need to save any cash for swords / warrior upgrades? Other wise we can rush 2, maybe 3 cats...

DeepO

	25-04-2003 12:05									#24
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64g for each Cat I think NYE.

	25-04-2003 12:05									#25
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Sandstorm's cat costs 60 to rush. Whirlwind's costs 64. I like the idea of switching Hurricane to a WC.

	25-04-2003 12:06									#26
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Yeah, a WC would be good, as it can instantly attack a unit. We still need to defend on the Eastern Mountains instead of attacking, but that's ok

DeepO

	25-04-2003 12:06									#27
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By the way, our gold balance is at 163.

	25-04-2003 12:07									#28
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87.4% odds for our Elite WC if both our Cats (72.7% odds for a hit vs 1 defense on a hill) were to hit GoW's Elite.

	25-04-2003 12:08									#29
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so 2 cats rushed leaves us 41 gold... enough for a sword upgrade or two. Is there anything else we can do with it?

Also, now that Vox has killed one of our swords East, we might need to put more units on defense... which is going to be tricky, we don't have too many of them.

DeepO

	25-04-2003 12:09									#30
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I don't know about the elite. Sure, it's a chance, but if we attack with vets, and both win, there is nothing left to attack with the elite. Odds against an immortal would be worse (but in that case, it could possibly retreat)

DeepO