28-04-2003 03:34									#31
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I think the Cat is more likely to save a Pike than a WC would. Pikes are very close on being able to take on 2 Immortals (all vets). Giving the Pike what amounts to an extra HP can often be the deciding factor on whether we wake up with a dead pike or an Elite one.

	28-04-2003 03:35									#32
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I think we have enough WC cannon fodder to make sure we hold both cities next turn right? (even if we have to take some from SS to replace elites)

	28-04-2003 03:37									#33
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Looking back over things, we want a cat from Monsoon. If we divide our forces evenly enough, and if we move the pike EotS built last turn into Arashi, we can have six units with higher defense than an injured WC in each city, and make sure that any WC forced to defend won't be an elite one.

	28-04-2003 03:39									#34
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Can anyone think of anything else besides the cat from Monsoon, the pike in Arashi, and switching Tempest to walls?

	28-04-2003 03:43									#35
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SS, Whirlwind, and OG are all at 0 shields right? I can't think of anything else to spend money on.

	28-04-2003 03:48									#36
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Production phase completed.

	28-04-2003 03:54									#37
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So we have 7 Vet Pikes
1 Cat from Monsoon that will be in Arashi
2 Cats from WW that will be in Tempest
2 Cats in Arashi that can bombard and be in Tempest or Arashi

What are the status on the Med Inf/Swords?

I think we should keep as much fortified at Arashi to heal as possible. Just moving enough so that Tempest can't fall this next turn (8 Units). Probably 4 Pikes, and 2 Swords/Med Inf?

	28-04-2003 03:56									#38
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We want to move Sandstorm's cat into Arashi, right? Even if we dared attack from Sandstorm 6 (which would be tolerably safe if we'd move our new medieval infantry there), the Voxians are fortified so it wouldn't do any good. Also, the pike from EotS last turn into Arashi?

	28-04-2003 03:57									#39
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Is Hurricane's new mine going to finish this turn or the next?

	28-04-2003 03:59									#40
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Oh, thought we moved the Cat from SS last turn. So we only have 1 Cat that can hit the stack by Tempest this turn?

	28-04-2003 04:00									#41
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Hurricane's mine finishes this turn, so I need to add our waiting worker, juggle some tile utilization, and switch Hurricane over to (probably) a pike.

	28-04-2003 04:01									#42
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Two cats that can hit this turn: one in Arashi and one at Whirlwind 6 that can move into either Arashi or Tempest and strike.

	28-04-2003 04:02									#43
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I assume we want to end up with three cats in each city?

	28-04-2003 04:04									#44
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Vox has another spearman protecting its workers, by the way.

	28-04-2003 04:04									#45
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Good deal. I agree with a Pike in Hurricane.

The 2 Cats that can hit, move to Tempest and then do it. That will give us 3 Cats in Tempest and 2 in Arashi.

	28-04-2003 04:04									#46
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Ok; I put the pic back up (beginning og the tread)
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quote: Can anyone think of anything else besides the cat from Monsoon, the pike in Arashi, and switching Tempest to walls?

Nathan, can you confirm that this is what you changed at the production phase, so I can edit this info in.

	28-04-2003 04:07									#47
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Could Vox's galley have sneaked through btw?
To the tile that is clouded H8889 or H8899.

	28-04-2003 04:08									#48
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You've rushed Sun Tzu's too, right? Or is that next turn?

	28-04-2003 04:09									#49
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Those were my only production-phase changes, yes.

I already have the cats from Whirlwind and last turn in Cyclone in Tempest, so we'll end up hitting with one cat from each city if we want to end up with three in each city, not that it makes a difference.

	28-04-2003 04:10									#50
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I haven't done the Sun Tsu rush yet, but it's definitely this turn.

	28-04-2003 04:11									#51
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That would have taken 4 movement for them (Vox's galley) to get there.

	28-04-2003 04:13									#52
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I'd rather have 4 Cats in Tempest. They've passed on hitting Arashi 2 times now when they would have had better odds. I doubt they'll hit Tempest either, but it leaves more of our Cats closer to EotS than they would be otherwise.

	28-04-2003 04:13									#53
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Anywhere Vox's galley could have gone except for backwards or way out to sea (e.g. 6-6-6) would be visible to our galleys. (Their galleys just move 3, and it started 7-7 from our galleys.) Any objections if I move one of our galleys forward to look for Voxians?

	28-04-2003 04:16									#54
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No objection here. But I think we should stay (or at least end) on coastal tiles just in case we want to block Vox's galley from moving S.

	28-04-2003 04:28									#55
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Find and kill that Voxian galley if possible.

Then I think we need to recall at least 1 galley (provided we don't lose one or both to the Voxian galley) to get some troops and have a shot at their iron.

-Arrian

	28-04-2003 04:30									#56
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If I were a Voxian and I took a cat hit or two this turn, I'd start having even more serious doubts than I already do that my immortals have any real chance of reaching EotS alive. If I don't think I can take EotS while being plinked with catapults along the way, that leaves me with three options.

1) Hit Tempest. But since Tempest is both bigger than Arashi and closer to Gathering Storm's core, odds are that most of Arashi's defenders are now in Tempest. If I couldn't take Arashi last turn, I can't expect to get Tempest this turn - not unless GS took the risk of trying to defend both cities (or actually has the forces to defend both effectively).

2) Go after Sandstorm. Chances of taking it are excellent, especially if I bring in immortals from both sides. But after last time, I can definitely expect heavy losses if I move out onto the flatlands. Is it really worth that for a size 2 desert city?

3) Turn on Arashi in the hope that it now has only a token defense because Gathering Storm wouldn't dare risk losing Tempest. If I succeed, I have a city to heal my wounds in and maybe wait for reinforcements, and I've very likely opened the way to take Monsoon.

Given that range of bad options to choose from, going after Arashi starts to look pretty attractive.

	28-04-2003 04:36									#57
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Vox's galley is now 9 from their colony. We can't hit it this turn, but we can next turn. The colony is currently defended by one spear and one immortal. I propose positioning both our galleys 6 from the colony. That way, both galleys will be in a position to attack the Voxian galley next turn.

	28-04-2003 04:39									#58
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What's our password? I wanna have a look at the save.

-Arrian

	28-04-2003 04:39									#59
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	28-04-2003 04:42									#60
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My moves so far:

Cat from Whirlwind to Tempest.
Cat by EotS into Tempest.
Pike by Tempest into Tempest.
Cat from Monsoon into Arashi.
One of our eastern Galleys 8-8-8