30-04-2003 10:27									#1
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After some problems, I am attaching four zip files in this thread for new unit sprites.

They would have been available a lot earlier except I and others discovered the the makespr utility is not 100% reliable. I found a frame with a problem could;
1) stop makespr in its tracks,
2) crash makespr, and
3) worst of all, complete makespr then crash the game whenever the unit moved or attacked.

The last one, rare but very frustrating and difficult to find. I now have a template folder of working frames and shadow files. I add 1 new animation sequence at a time, then test the sprite in the game to make absolutely sure, this way I can narrow down a number 3) error to within 10 frames.

The first sprite is the Heavy Spearman, based on the Civ 3 unit, designed to be the next development of the original spearman, this one having body armour. I learnt a lot in making this sprite, including sharpening the image as civ3 units are a little dull when blown up to CTP2 size.

	30-04-2003 10:42									#2
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Attached;

	30-04-2003 11:03									#3
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Trying to attach again

Attachment: heavyspearman.zip
This has been downloaded 30 time(s).

	30-04-2003 11:05									#4
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Bart Simpson to Stankarp (alias Dumbo)-

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	30-04-2003 12:34									#5
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Attached is the file for the Phalanx.

Attachment: phalanx.zip
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	30-04-2003 12:43									#6
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Attached is the War Chariot sprite.

Attachment: warcahriot.zip
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	30-04-2003 12:55									#7
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Attached is the Galley Sprite.

	30-04-2003 13:00									#8
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Try again

Attachment: galley.zip
This has been downloaded 20 time(s).

	30-04-2003 13:30									#9
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I had the last problem too.

	08-05-2003 02:51									#10
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any screenshots ?

	08-05-2003 03:26									#11
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Sorry SMIFFGIG,

Can U be more specific, ie, screenshots of the units in action or of the problem Big Mac referred to?

BTW, what does SMIFFGIG stand for?

Will be posting Heavy Cavalry soon.

	08-05-2003 16:53									#12
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big mac!!!!!

	08-05-2003 19:09									#13
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Sorry, The Big Mac :-)

	08-05-2003 21:02									#14
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you said it again. :- (

	09-05-2003 02:46									#15
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Stankarp, i think it should be 'The Big Mc' rather than Big Mac(a brand of burger!!). strangly when i try to download the zip files(any of them), It won't let me - gives me some rubbish about not being logged in, while clearly saying at the bottom that i am logged in as child of Thor - duh?
If I can download them i will love to give some feedback

	09-05-2003 04:09									#16
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Just demonstrating my ability to have a senior moment when I least expect it THE BIG MC

Child of thor, Try logging on again. Every now and then I have a similar trouble, can reply to a post 19 times out of 20 and on the 20 th time, it suddenly tells me I am logged off. If not, Give me your email address and what your email limit is and I'll send them to you, 1 or 2 at a time if necessary.

	09-05-2003 04:13									#17
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u viewing the site through frames

like Hotmail or something, if so thats the prob, tottaly buggers things up one min thinks ur logged in the next tells u ur not


if that aint the case then i dont know

	10-05-2003 02:12									#18
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This is the message i get when i try to download the zip files:

'Forum Message
You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
You are not logged in. Fill in the form at the bottom of this page and try again.
You do not have permission to access the page that you were trying to. Are you trying to edit someone else's post or trying to access administrative features? Check that you are allowed to perform this action in the Forum Rules. If you are trying to do a search, you need to register(for free).
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation. If you havent recieved your activation mail, you can request a new one to be sent to you.

Logged in user: child of Thor [logout] {so i am logged on - very strange}

The administrator may have required you to register before you can view this page. Forgotten your password?'

I'll try it again in a few days, maybe post over in the community section and see if other people have had the same thing. I am definately logged in so it's not that......hmmm?
Thanks for the offer stankarp, if i can't sort it out then i'll have to take you up on the offer
And SMIFFGIG, no i'm direct on apolyton - no strange programs running on the background, very mysterious

	10-05-2003 04:07									#19
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I am also having trouble with login-logout.

Hope the upload of my Heavy cavalry works OK.

Attachment: hvycav.zip
This has been downloaded 15 time(s).

	10-05-2003 04:10									#20
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Dont think that worked, will try again.

Attachment: hvycav.zip
This has been downloaded 13 time(s).

	10-05-2003 04:42									#21
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stankarp, i don't think it's your files inparticular - i've tried a number of other files for the mods for ctp2 etc and i get the same thing each time.Looks like an Apolyton glitch.

	10-05-2003 07:49									#22
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COT,

Send me your email address via private message and I'll send you the zip files directly.

	15-05-2003 01:28									#23
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Hey stankarp i can download again!
So give me a few days and i'll post some feedback on your sprites

	16-05-2003 00:15									#24
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I especially like that heavy phalanx I think IW or the Big MC may be able to give you a list of unit types we are lacking(crossbow springs to mind?) for CTP2.
Nice work stankarp expect to be in demand from the Modders here

	16-05-2003 02:11									#25
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor (crossbow springs to mind?)

respring your mind

I did a crossbowman for myself.

	16-05-2003 02:46									#26
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Re-sprung!
sweet
So what needs to be done now, i'm sure Locutus had a list of sprites he wanted doing?
I'd like to see each civ getting it's own indivdual unit per unit type, to add a real feeling of being a specific civ...........

Last edited by child of Thor on 16-05-2003 at 02:51

	16-05-2003 03:13									#27
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quote: Originally posted by child of Thor I'd like to see each civ getting it's own indivdual unit per unit type, to add a real feeling of being a specific civ...........

You do realise that there's a limit of 200 sprites...

	16-05-2003 03:26									#28
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Thanks for the feedback.

I want to make a special thanks to Immortal Wombat for his patient help

The Heavy Spearman was my first attempt and I learnt a lot from that, especially about sharpening each frame as the Civ 3 figures are actually quiet dull when enlarged for CTP2, and also in using the colour change tool tolerance to eliminate that slight dark edge I got on the spearman.

I had trouble with larger units such as the chariot archer because foot units are already a little big, I will try to have slightly larger frames for somethings like catapults and naval units.

Next project is a decent Roman Legionary and a catapult with a crew

Thanks for the feedback. I like seeing a line of phalanx in the front centre with heavy cavalry on the flanks and archers and chariot archers behind.

My cradle mod which I hope will be ready in 4-6 weeks includes , apart from the new sprites, for the early period, javelineers, advanced warriors, heavy swordsman, scouts, ballista, supply train, seige train, consript swordsman and conscript legionary and hun raider.

	17-05-2003 09:17									#29
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Stankarp
check civfanatics that have a better imperial legionary there (with a great shield). Have you been using flicster to get your frames or just from animation shop. And have you come up with any formatting tools? Like a single frame empty box with the right pallette etc that you are using to make your several sprites?

	17-05-2003 12:41									#30
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Whats the address for civfanatics? I would certainly like a better legion and given it takes about 12-15 hours to make a sprite, I could spend the time playtesting and working on my mod.

I have been converting using animation shop to access the FLIC frames then panit shop pro to do the alterations. I have a template folder set up with a text file that works and animation and shadow frames that I know work in a sprite. I then do 1 animation sequence at a time, eg say movement 1 of 10 frames, make the sprite and check it in a game for reasons outlined above and previous forums. I used IW's procedure but changed a couple of things to make it easier.

If you have an easier way to make a sprite, post the details but be specific as I am not a computer genius.