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Swing Low, Sweet Chariots.
Aug 1999
time: 05:27
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Well, yes, I'm stepping rather well, I think. |
Rather too well most of the time. 
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Between now and the end of the RWC and you're on. |
Before I commit to this can you find out for me who the refs are in the NZ and Aussie games? If they are SH I can’t take that bet – their Unions will be quite keen for them to card Jonno I would have thought. Not that the SH Unions would ever stoop so low.
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I'll sketch a retired tight head with a pork pie addiction and a high forehead and post it at Customs! |
Oh I’ve been stopped by your customs before – just like ours they all see themselves as comedians.
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Supplying what? I or T? |
Both – but it really is too boring to go into any detail on.
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As I recall, we were talking about the WRC final, not other French teams in other years. |
But I like my step.
Okay I’ll brush aside the 91 final for the moment – but 99 was very much a case of Australia’s best game of the tournament and France’s worst. France blew a golden chance there – I’ll never be convinced otherwise.
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Mmmmm. Some would wonder why they got into the position in the first place. |
Oh that’s easy. They pressed, got caught, panicked and got caught again. And Flatley could never have taken that ball from an onside position – it wasn’t physically possible. That’s where England struggle – playing sides that ‘push’ the laws that little bit further than you get in six nations tests.
Subtle?
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I really don't know what the matches will prove in terms of the WRC. |
Let me take a wild stab – if England win both they will prove nothing (and NZ despite the names they field will only have put out a ‘development’ side no doubt). If England should lose both the games will be hugely significant no doubt? 
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Some of the best french players crossed the Channel to play in England and now that English players are crossing it the other way the shepherd is suddenly shouting the wolf is coming. |
Terrific line Tamerlin. :b
But what great players were sent this way? Castaignede is the only one – the rest were workmanlike like Califano or Brouzet. And personally the loss of Luger to France doesn’t worry me, nor the loss of our Peter Short to Narbonne. And I’m sure Richard Cockerill is having a huge impact on Montferand. My only concern in this is making sure the playing field is level. If France does not have an effective salary cap then we shouldn’t either – and if we do they you should have to my mind.
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IMO again, the situation between England and France is becoming more or less equal IMO. |
Love the way you stress this is IYO.
This is all a storm in a teacup I think? Although it does seem that USAP are being a little silly – they are almost inviting the French authorities to investigate their finances surely?
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So a lot of it is "government" money? |
Don’t forget it is a country where over half the adult working population is in the public sector. ‘Government’ is into almost everything in France – those local entities as described by Tamerlin will be the equivalent of an English county council and the sub-ordinate borough councils but probably with four times the number of staff per capita.
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And nobody cares about the map I have made up for you... |
Actually I found it very useful thanks – I hadn’t realised Montferand was so adrift of the core area.
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This is a simple jpg image... try a good browser like IE6. |
Never forget that Finbar, as a creative soul, is cast adrift on the see of Macintosh based surfing.
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Believe me I have never given a cent to Bill... |
Whatever does he mean? 
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"Moins on a de culture, plus on l'étale" (the less culture one has, the more one displays it)... |
My god Finbar – this is tailor made for the ‘outback’ boys isn’t it? 
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As, indeed, I recall that English vehicle regos used to end - and maybe still do - with a letter that signified the year the vehicle was registered. |
Actually it is even less logical now. Frozzy is on the right lines but a little wrong in the details – for example a G prefix was August 89-July 90. And the three letters grouped in the plate give the area of registration. The number that tells you year of registration is now in the middle of the plate. Cars from Mar-Aug this year carry 03 in the middle. Cars from Sep-Feb will have 53. Then next year 04 and 54 and so on. For example the form is xx03 yyy. Yyy tells you the geographic origin within the UK if you are nerdy enough to want to look it up! Irish plates also have the year number at the end I believe.
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In those days, a letter was tacked on to the end to signify date. As I recall, my vehicle rego was AYF 717T, with the T standing for either '78 or '79. |
Pretty much spot on. :b My first car was a 78 S plate.
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*Havak turns a darker shade of green* |
No he doesn’t.
Tigers 27 Buck Shelfords Sarries 20
Tigers return to take Tamerlins boys on next year. In fact as lowest English seeds we may end up in their group. If this happens could I ask that Finbar please supports Toulouse.
The game went to extra time and over 110 minutes of rugger was played in 85 degree conditions – key England players like J, Backy and Hilly were involved. Woodward must have been hopping mad!?
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Typical of a team I support to stumble at the final hurdle. This doesn't auger well for Toulouse, Tamerlin. |
I take no satisfaction in it Finbar but they were ripped apart. The Wasps pack destroyed them – only Tigers at our place did anything similar all season.
It’s opened a huge debate here. You know we like our leagues and Glaws did finish 15 points clear. They then had to sit around for three weeks with no games while Wasps kept ticking over with a play off and the Challenge trophy final.
Yes I feel slightly sorry for Glaws – and there is something I never thought I would say!!
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:27
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Originally posted by Havak
Before I commit to this can you find out for me who the refs are in the NZ and Aussie games? If they are SH I can’t take that bet – their Unions will be quite keen for them to card Jonno I would have thought. Not that the SH Unions would ever stoop so low. |
 I'll check. Regardless, if he doesn't do anything wrong, he can't be pinged, can he?
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Okay I’ll brush aside the 91 final for the moment – but 99 was very much a case of Australia’s best game of the tournament and France’s worst. France blew a golden chance there – I’ll never be convinced otherwise. |
Firing on all three cylinders today!
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That’s where England struggle – playing sides that ‘push’ the laws that little bit further than you get in six nations tests.
Subtle? |
Just as we struggled against a side, a ref and an assistant ref who interpreted tries differently to the rest of the rugby world at Twickers a couple of seasons ago. I assume Dan Luger is taking his own set of try-scoring rules to France with him?
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Let me take a wild stab – if England win both they will prove nothing (and NZ despite the names they field will only have put out a ‘development’ side no doubt). If England should lose both the games will be hugely significant no doubt? |
Ultimately, they might mean something for confidence for the RWC, but not a lot more.
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Never forget that Finbar, as a creative soul, is cast adrift on the see of Macintosh based surfing. |
Cheerfully, perversely so. Actually, I have IE, Netscape, Mozilla and Safari installed. I'm easily bored.
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Tigers return to take Tamerlins boys on next year. In fact as lowest English seeds we may end up in their group. If this happens could I ask that Finbar please supports Toulouse. |
All depends on Tamerlin and his Mum's recipe for Cassoulet.
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Yes I feel slightly sorry for Glaws – and there is something I never thought I would say!! |
Well, yes, but they did have a habit of losing some matches they should have won. Look at the HC debacle. I'm sure 3 empty weeks was a big handicap, but not enough to warrant that sort of pasting.
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Havak
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Swing Low, Sweet Chariots.
Aug 1999
time: 05:27
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I’m guessing IE was the last you tried with the map then?
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Regardless, if he doesn't do anything wrong, he can't be pinged, can he? |
He can in the SH. He might compete for the ball or something else 'evil' like that.
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Firing on all three cylinders today! |
As can be seen above there is not much compression on number three…
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I assume Dan Luger is taking his own set of try-scoring rules to France with him? |
One can only hope. Which did you prefer – the desperate Balshaw/Luger kick and score or the incision of Cohen going through the middle of the defence?
I’m sure it was an SH ref that day btw.
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Ultimately, they might mean something for confidence for the RWC, but not a lot more. |
They will also be useful raw material for this thread of course.
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All depends on Tamerlin and his Mum's recipe for Cassoulet. |
Well at the very least can I assume you will not be on the Tigers bandwagon?
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Well, yes, but they did have a habit of losing some matches they should have won. Look at the HC debacle. |
The less said about that the better.
Yes they messed up. The players should have been well rested and fit. The problem was a fired up Wasps pack put the Glaws forwards on the back foot and there seemed to be no plan B. Only their young loose forward Forrester was out injured – and the loss of one player, however talented, should not be fatal. Vickery was back but looked exactly what he is – ring rusty. He needs this tour to be ready for RWC.
It seems Glaws time in the sun may be very brief. Given their financial state it seems likely Henry Paul will step into Fly Half next season. That will go some way to neutralising their young talent they have out wide – Paul’s distribution is not reliable to say the least.
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:27
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Originally posted by Havak
It appears that Saturday may be very interesting indeed Finbar - Ireland also have huge injury problems in the backs. Serious enough in fact that Tiger Geordan Murphy starts at centre - and even in the depths of our clubs centre crisis we never played him there.
Their forwards are largely intact however, and it's a powerful pack. |
Yes, and we've just lost a centre to injury warming up before practice. With the A Team off in Japan, so no ready replacement available, Matt Rogers has been drafted into the team, first up after a broken foot kept him out of the last 3 or 4 S12 matches of the season. I cannot believe this run of injuries. Has Eddie killed a litter of black kittens?
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I also chanced across this whilst looking for news of Healey by the way. It's old but it explains the events of 2001 from a far more objective perspective than I suspect you ever got with the Australian. |
I only had time for a quick read. A couple of observations - most people know that most sportsmen's newspaper columns are ghosted. The point, though, is that if you're willing to put your name to the column, and, more importantly, take the money, you must wear the responsibility. I have read bits and pieces of the story before, or heard about it. Frankly, it reads like a lot of arse-saving.
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Tamerlin
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Toulouse (South-western France)
Apr 2002
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Isn’t it getting interesting though Tamerlin? If you beat them you go into Pool One in the European Cup next season. Guess which side from England you then draw in the Pool?  |
It is getting very interesting indeed, the Frog & Rosbiff is waiting for us... 
This final is very open, the Parisians are in great shape led by a pair of halves in great shape (Fabien Galthié and Diego Dominguez) and a very experienced scrum. On the other side the Stade Toulousain's scrum has been very weak against the Sporting Union Agenais and was largely dominated while Yann Delaigue (half-fly) and Frédéric Michalck (half-scrum) are also in great shape. The Toulousain's line-out is very performing and has stolen many balls to its opponents, it is actually a real launching pad... The two clubs have the best defences and the Stade Toulousain's backs are able to light a devastating fire at every moment. The key of the game seems to be the scrum and the capacity of the Stade Toulousain's one to resist the pressure of the Stade Français. But a final is always a special event as some players are able to transcend themselves, the game is thus really unpredictable. I remember the final against the Association Sportive Montferrandaise when the young talents like Michalack, Poitrenaud, Jeanjean, Bouillhou and Gerard readily hatched and harassed the Montferrandais. But in the same time I vividly remember the semi-final lost 39-3 by the Stade Toulousain against the Stade Français in Brive (like the Biarritz Olympique last friday).
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Eleven games in Super 12, two more if you are in the play offs. Maybe ten tests a year? Aussies don’t play a lot of representative rugby that’s for sure. The Kiwis are different of course – once the routine of the Super 12 and Tri nations is done with they settle to the serious business of NPC I believe. I bet some of them play nearly 30 games a year. |
LAZYBONES... 
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Can you jump on it after they win the Championship and in time for Tigers meeting them in the autumn? |
Do you realize you are asking Finbar to support a Pom's team?
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And where are France as the Poms, Kiwis and Wallabies duke it out – in Argentina of course. That makes sense?  |
Be patient little Havak, the other SH teams are coming next...
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:27
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Oh bits of it are retrospective damage limitation that is for sure. But on the whole it is reasonable – Austin isn’t Satan and Justin sure as hell was not a Saint. |
Austin is proved to be an even bigger idiot for letting such bilge be printed under his name and Justin can be just as big an idiot for different reasons.
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How amusing that on the same day we take on the Kiwis Eddie has given you a training run against Wales. I’d be very interested in your opinion of both Ireland and Wales actually Finbar. Wales in particular look very weak to me – but they do have that lock I’ve mentioned before – Sidoli. He looks promising. |
This is my whole point about the value of these Tests. Ireland is injury-ridden, as are the Wallabies. I won't say "decimated" by injury, because mis-use of the word "decimated" is my latest hobby horse. "Decimated" means, literally, one in ten killed (in the military context). "Decimated" does not mean virtually wiped out, which is the meaning commonly applied to the word. In fact, it means quite the opposite. Anyway, I don't know whether Wales has injury problems, but they're obviously going to be less-than-strong even without injuries. I shall watch the matches, though, with great interest - mainly to see how the tyro Wallabies perform.
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And where are France as the Poms, Kiwis and Wallabies duke it out – in Argentina of course. That makes sense? |
The Pumas in Puma Land can, as we know, be a handful.
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Caligastia
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