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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:27
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Originally posted by Havak
Glaws have a messageboard too Finbar by the way. Want me to dig out the URL? I am reliably informed it has been flame city since last weekend. 
Glaws are plagued by the lack of a decent s***** side in the area meaning the muppets flock to Kingsholm – and the board reflects that darker side of their fan base. |
I wonder what would happen if I posted in a West Country accent. 
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Actually yes I am – when these fixtures were last played last November the NH sides actually both came out on top (Scotland truly embarassing the Boks in fact). |
That was the Boks at their lowest. I'll be interested to see what's happened to the Boks in the meantime. I will be especially interested to see whether the coach's subsequent prattle about cleaning up their onfield act is just prattle.
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It will be a useful guide for me of how far SA have recovered and whether Ireland or Australia have the greater strength in depth – both are injury ravaged in the backs. |
It looks like our new cap centre Morgan Turinui will start after all. Matt Rogers has been released to play his first game in 3 months at club level.
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Are France playing the Maoris too Caligastia? |
I saw a Maori team selection t'other day, but I forget who they were picked to play against. Very useful team it was, too.
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Damn I just can’t out any real heart into my bait these days.  |
Yeah, much too easy to hit the Delete key.
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He made a huge error of judgment. On the same magnitude as his trying to play fly half. He deserves the consequences. What continues to worry me is the double standard – Austin gets vilified for mildly racist comments – Burke and Gregan can spout what racist nonsense they like and generally get portrayed as “good Aussie blokes” by the Aussie media? Tell me that’s fair? |
I thought I'd give the Delete key a rest. It was starting to emit smoke.
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Preaching to the converted on Decimated by the way. |
I've never known why people make the mistake. Must be because the word sounds like a rout.
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What bothers me is that Ireland have a formidable pack. Wales forwards are huge (but not very mobile). What happens is the Wallabies pick up three or four more injuries before England arrive? |
Yeah well, who knows? The A Team are only playing a short tour of Japan - two matches, I think - so at least they'll be available. As it stands, if anyone is injured between now and when they return, we're totally stuffed. I'm sure a couple of the A Team are destined to be tried in some of the Tests. I hope so anyway. There's some bright young talent.
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Anyway let me say the players I think you should watch on Saturday. Murphy you need to keep an eye on. Humphreys the Fly Half is a kicking machine – he’ll punish penalties. The scrum half Stringer is tiny but a real live wire. O’Kelly in the second row is a potent line out threat. |
I've written down the names.
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I’m really looking forward to this actually! |
Me too, as I said. I always enjoy watching new kids getting a go. One always crosses one's fingers for them.
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Huge scrumming side normally – Tamerlin will be in hog heaven. |
 I can see Tamerlin packing down into the scrum machine in his lounge room as we speak.
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Ahh right – apologies. Please stay on it then. And Tamerlin, keep up the Xenophobia please. |
Typical arrogant bloody grenouille when it comes to food. They're all the same.
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:27
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Originally posted by Havak
Apart from me taking an instant irrational dislike to you? Well you?ld receive a number of replies saying ?I caaant be doooiiing with thaaaat?. They elongate the vowels very extensively. |
It's actually one of my favourite accents. Even if the intellect's as slow as the speech.
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We play them on Monday. Johnson and Wilkinson are confirmed as being rested. It looks like King may be Fly Half (he orchestrated Wasps win). He is talented but nowehere near the same league. Think of him as McMullen to Larkham? |
I wonder when J**** and Wilkinson will get their outings? Or against whom?
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Totally down to journalistic mis-use of the word I feel. A mistake that will never feature in one of your scripts. |
Unless, of course, it happens to feature an ignorant character. It's great fun writing characters who didn't learn to speak proper.
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Why aren?t they staying in Japan? The England side in Canada heads there after the Churchill cup ? we could have had a three hander with Englands third string testing the young Wallabies. |
Yeah, sure. The A Team are our only replacements.
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Yes there?s some exciting young talent in the Paddy line up all right. |
And it will be interesting to see Keith Gleeson lining up against his old mates again. Good player, a bit short of being good enough.
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I rather like Catalan cuisine myself ? as it seems to mainly consist of as many varieties of meat as you can get on one plate. So what is this mythical Cassoulet? |
Mmmm. Okay. Well, where to start? To the uninitiated, it's a stew. The basis is always haricot beans. They're cooked very slowly with pork - bits and pieces of the pig, sausages, etc - and sometimes mutton and sometimes duck or goose. There are myriad different versions of it, but there are three classic interpretations - one of which, of course, is the Toulouse version. (The others are the Castelnaudary and Carcasonne versions) The interpretations differ largely according to the meats used. I have the recipes for the three classic versions, so I don't really need Mrs Tamerlin's recipe - I was just interested to see an individual take on the traditional.
The interesting thing is that the integrity of the dish has been looked after by - for want of a better term - legislation. Offically, a cassoulet must consist of at least 30% pork (including sausage and Toulouse sausage), mutton or preserved goose; and 70% haricot beans, stock, pork rinds, herbs and flavourings.
I read somewhere once that canned cassoulet accounts for a big percentage of all pre-cooked canned food sold in France. Next time you're in the SW, do yourself a favour. A good cassoulet is heaven on earth.
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Swing Low, Sweet Chariots.
Aug 1999
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It's actually one of my favourite accents. Even if the intellect's as slow as the speech. |
It does come across that way. But watch yourself – many west country folk possess the cunning of a fox.
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I wonder when J**** and Wilkinson will get their outings? Or against whom? |
Both will play NZ is my prediction. Neither may face Australia depending how Ireland do?
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It's great fun writing characters who didn't learn to speak proper. |
You don’t write Neighbours do you? Sorry – only kidding!
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Yeah, sure. The A Team are our only replacements. |
*whistles* 37 players with Woodward, another 37 in Canada…
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And it will be interesting to see Keith Gleeson lining up against his old mates again. Good player, a bit short of being good enough. |
Well he wouldn’t trouble the England selectors that’s for sure. He might well have got a shot with you right now though? As you say a good player – got the physicality, just seems a little short on the ‘art’ side?
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Offically, a cassoulet must consist of at least 30% pork (including sausage and Toulouse sausage), mutton or preserved goose; and 70% haricot beans, stock, pork rinds, herbs and flavourings. |
It sounds quite interesting. God bless the French – only they could blithely ignore EC legislation on food and still legislate themselves.
Of course it does look like a trip that way is on the cards for me so I’ll have to look out for a tin of the article in question.
I hope Tamerlin will still speak to me after we stop them getting through the group stages though.
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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
Jan 2001
time: 05:27
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By the way Finbar, supporting the Stade Français is considered as the most supreme heresy everywere in France, except in Paris of course where the inhabitants have suddenly discovered there is a Rugby team in their city because they are qualified for the final... |
Yes, the Stade Francais is not very liked. Even I, who spend lots of time in Paris, played against the "folklo" team of the Stade Francais, play with a player who plays with some lower level team in the Stade Francais (auite a fast full back btw) when he doesn't play with us... Even I, though I spent onr month or so ago an evening in the very very very nice clubhouse of the Stade Francais (actually a nice bar-restaurant inside the Parc Des Princes area), will still support Toulouse. Although I would like Galthié to win a final, since he really deserves it, but then he might get a chance at the world cup?
But their clubhouse is really nice.
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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
Jan 2001
time: 05:27
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Tamerlin, I understand some people want the Stade Toulousain to stumble, but, IMO, they already stumbled last year and that's enough for me. Biarritz made a beautiful champion. Toulouse should win.
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:27
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Originally posted by Havak
Such a good riposte that I will leave it alone – at least until after tomorrow. |
Mmmm. At the moment, we have an incredibly select group of players - a.k.a the only ones available.
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Similar things do happen here. There’s a move to protect certain varieties of pork pie in the same way. |
Which is only as it should be. Otherwise rubbish is passed off as the real thing. It happens here too.
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It would have to be very filling indeed to make me feel full up. |
It can be very very filling. As you will discover.
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The Maori have picked someone called Flavell - that names rings a bell with me - is he a bad boy? |
Yes, Troy Flavell. Carded and suspended earlier this season for stomping an opponent's head. We discussed it at the time. It was a perfect example of the fine line I referred to in our discussion about rucking. He well and truly crossed the fine line. The opponent fell in a maul, Flavell was after his head before he even hit the ground.
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Oh they've picked Cullen too - 1/64 a Maori good enough it seems? |
That puzzled me too. What are the qualifications to be picked for the Maori?
Edit. I just found this on a Kiwi website:
"The Sunday News revealed that Cullen, known for his Samoan-German background, came up with the right whakapapa two years ago. It emerged his grandfather belonged to the Ngai Tahu tribe that controls most of the South Island.
Saturday's New Zealand Herald joined the debate with the revelation that a Maori All Black captain of the 1950s, Alan "Kiwi" Blake, was really an African American.
Blake told the paper that he took part in the All Black trials in 1948 and would have made it to the team to tour apartheid South Africa but was told he could not go because of the colour of his skin.
"When they told me that I said all right, I'll take a nomination for the Maori team," Blake, 80, told the paper.
"I didn't care who I played for."
He played for Wairarapa province as a flanker and said everybody in the area knew he wasn't Maori, but said nothing.
Rugby union officials say they ensure that only people with Maori whakapapa play and claim informal checks are made with kaumatua or elders.
But former Maori All Black Bill Bush told the newspaper the selection of people like Cullen made a mockery of the side.
"I think there's three or four that aren't Maoris that are playing for the Maori All Blacks. If you're going to have a New Zealand Maori team you've got to be Maori to play for it."
But the side's couch, Matt Te Pou, has no doubts.
"They're all Maori, the whole lot," he told the Herald.
"I've got a couple of guys in the team that are Fijian and Maori, and European and Maori, Irish, German, it's just the type of life we're in at the moment."
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I like the Alan Blake bit.
Last edited by finbar on 07-06-2003 at 06:41
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Are France playing the Maoris too Caligastia?
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I don't think so...
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Caligastia
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Originally posted by finbar
That puzzled me too. What are the qualifications to be picked for the Maori?
Edit. I just found this on a Kiwi website:
"The Sunday News revealed that Cullen, known for his Samoan-German background, came up with the right whakapapa two years ago. It emerged his grandfather belonged to the Ngai Tahu tribe that controls most of the South Island.
Saturday's New Zealand Herald joined the debate with the revelation that a Maori All Black captain of the 1950s, Alan "Kiwi" Blake, was really an African American.
Blake told the paper that he took part in the All Black trials in 1948 and would have made it to the team to tour apartheid South Africa but was told he could not go because of the colour of his skin.
"When they told me that I said all right, I'll take a nomination for the Maori team," Blake, 80, told the paper.
"I didn't care who I played for."
He played for Wairarapa province as a flanker and said everybody in the area knew he wasn't Maori, but said nothing.
Rugby union officials say they ensure that only people with Maori whakapapa play and claim informal checks are made with kaumatua or elders.
But former Maori All Black Bill Bush told the newspaper the selection of people like Cullen made a mockery of the side.
"I think there's three or four that aren't Maoris that are playing for the Maori All Blacks. If you're going to have a New Zealand Maori team you've got to be Maori to play for it."
But the side's couch, Matt Te Pou, has no doubts.
"They're all Maori, the whole lot," he told the Herald.
"I've got a couple of guys in the team that are Fijian and Maori, and European and Maori, Irish, German, it's just the type of life we're in at the moment."
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I like the Alan Blake bit. |
Interesting stuff...
Really, when you think about it, it's a bit silly to have a team based on race when the race they claim to represent is probably only present in the team in some miniscule amount.
Still, there's something to be said about a game between the ABs and Japan...
poor buggers
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LDiCesare
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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
Jan 2001
time: 05:27
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Surprise, surprise, finbar wasn't asrounded by Sailor's play...
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Caligastia
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Nice one Aussies...I found the SA v Scotland game more exciting though. It was a reall thriller at the end. Did anyone else get to see it?
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La Ferté sous Jouarre France
Jan 2001
time: 05:27
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I didn't see SA Scotland, but it was shown shortly on TV. Looks like it was tense indeed.
Now a sad news for Tamerlin: The Stade Francais is now France champion. 32-18 for Stade Francais vs. Toulouse. Galthié scord the try which let Paris break out (they were 6 points behind, then they went ahead and were never joined). Paris played a good game, with only one real occasion for them in the first half, while Toulouse dominated. The second half was a very good defense from Paris, after a beautifuk try. It was a nice game. I must confess I was happy to see Galthié score his try and am really happy he won the championship.
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