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Ramo is offline Ramo
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Marijuana possession: 15 grams, $100 fine
Proposed penalty equivalent to a speeding ticket
 
Janice Tibbetts


The Ottawa Citizen; with files from The Canadian Press

Tuesday, May 13, 2003
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The federal government is considering fining small-time marijuana users as little as $100 under decriminalization legislation that is expected to be introduced Thursday.
Sources say the amount, equivalent to a low-level speeding ticket, was still under discussion yesterday as Justice Department officials scrambled to put the finishing touches on their bill. The fine would be handed to people caught with less than 15 grams of marijuana.
People caught with more than 15 grams would still be subject to a criminal record that carries a maximum penalty of six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.
Small-time users would be governed by the non-criminal Contraventions Act, a little-used act that controls such things as driving on federal wharves and abandoning vessels in a public harbour.

The anticipated penalty for marijuana possession would fall short of the current maximum fine under the act of $500.

The amount of marijuana to be decriminalized is only half the amount recommended by a special House of Commons committee on illicit drugs.

The Commons committee had proposed criminal sanctions be lifted for less than 30 grams. The Justice Department had indicated it would accept the recommendation, but suddenly retreated in recent weeks.

A particular concern is the growing prevalence of B.C. bud, a potent strain of marijuana that put Canada for the first time this year on a White House list of countries of concern in the war on drugs.

The United States has been pressing Canada to abandon its decriminalization plan, warning that it would lead to delays at the border.

The watered-down bill will include stiffer penalties for drug traffickers and people caught with marijuana grow operations.

To underline the point, Justice Minister Martin Cauchon will present his plan to U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft today.

Mr. Cauchon is expected to stress that marijuana will remain illegal and Canada will toughen penalties substantially for marijuana-growing operations. He already described the plan briefly to Mr. Ashcroft last week at a Paris meeting of justice ministers of the Group of Eight leading industrialized nations, but today's meeting will give a fuller explanation. The legislation will be accompanied by a renewed national drug strategy, that will put millions of dollars into drug prevention, education, and treatment.

Mr. Cauchon said in the Commons yesterday the government has no intention of legalizing marijuana.
Solicitor General Wayne Easter said the message Canada is trying to send to Americans -- and Canadians -- is drugs are dangerous and people caught with anything but small amounts of marijuana will be treated harshly.

"There is some work to be done here, no doubt about that, but we will be coming out with a package that we believe the Americans will certainly understand where we're at as well as Canadians," Mr. Easter said yesterday.

"I think the key is there is certainly a lot of concern about marijuana grow operations, about people trafficking, about people being penalized with small amounts and having a criminal record that affects them for so much of their lives."

Randy White, a Canadian Alliance MP and vocal critic of the federal drug policy, opposes decriminalization.
He said he believes the government's plan will fail because judges will be reluctant to hand criminal records to people caught with 16 grams and minor fines to those possessing 14 grams.

Mr. White said the government's fines should increase with the offence, so that people caught for the second and third times would be given heftier tickets than first-time offenders.


WTG, Canucks!

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Good news!

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A step in the right direction.

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That aught to bring in more American tourists.

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OH CANADA... THUMBS UP!

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Booyah.

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All I have to say is...

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Good show

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Canada,

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$100 for having some veggies on you? That's government opression, man, that is.

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we're getting there

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Would you rather take 100 lashes by greasy wet noodles?

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this is indeed good news, hopefully america will follow canada's lead...not that i endorse pot, i just think drug abuse is a medical issue facing society not a criminal one

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I'm for it, and I've never smoked (nor plan on smoking) marijuana

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I've smoked maybe a half dozen times in my life but still .

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never smoked, but I guess.

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WEAK

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Weak? Ballsy.

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I was talking to my grandfather about this, and the various no-smoking bylaws being passed around the region lately, and he put it quite apt: he said he never heard of anyone going out and beating their wives or getting into car accidents because of tobacco or marijuana.

It only makes sense to treat marijuana the same as tobacco/alcohol; I'm sure one could make the argument that pot is the least dangerous of the three. Only seems to be the right-wing nutjobs in the States who have such a hard time with it any more.

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Duuuuude, that is sooo AWESOME!!!!!

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marijuana should be treated the same as alcohol...
Good move Canada

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A $100 fine? For 15 grams? What is there to cheer about?

IMO that's $100 too much

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15 grams is a lot... I can live with that...

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If you smoke too much, you will start cut and paste posting like Berzie. *Image of fried egg*

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Does this mean that they are still going to crack down on the "cash crop" farmers in BC?

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Does this mean that they are still going to crack down on the "cash crop" farmers in BC?
What is your opinion on what the legal status of Marijuana should be, DD?

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If you smoke too much, you will start cut and paste posting like Berzie. *Image of fried egg*
oh god his posts are a chore to read....

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What is your opinion on what the legal status of Marijuana should be, DD?
What does that have to do with the statement I made?

 
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