15-05-2003 08:39									#1
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I came across this over at Civ Fanatics:

Expansion announcement

	15-05-2003 08:57									#2
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Maybe It'll ship with the Euro 1.21f patch?

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w00t!

	15-05-2003 09:03									#4
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This is exciting, new civs, new wonders, new victory conditions!
I can't take this, I need more info!

	15-05-2003 09:12									#5
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider This is exciting, new civs, new wonders, new victory conditions! I can't take this, I need more info!

this from gamespot

We were fortunate enough to attend a Firaxis press event at which the company's president, Jeff Briggs, and the company's chief creative director, veteran game designer Sid Meier, announced a new partnership with Atari Games (the publisher formerly known as Infogrames) to develop and publish new PC games. According to Meier, the new agreement gives Firaxis the right to revisit such classic properties as Colonization, Covert Action, Silent Service, F-15 Strike Eagle, and F-19 Stealth Fighter. Briggs and Meier went on to formally announce the next product in the Civilization series: Civilization III: Conquests, a new expansion pack for the award-winning 2001 strategy game.

Civilization III: Conquests will feature a brand-new single-player campaign that will model eight different famous historical campaigns, including the battle for Mesopotamia, the battles between the Mayans and Incans, the struggle for control of feudal Japan, and even World War II. The expansion pack will also feature a whopping eight new civilizations, as well as a great many other additions, including new military units, new diplomacy options, new government types, new wonders of the world, new victory conditions, new resources, and new luxuries. The expansion will be released later this year.

hope this helps


Davor

	15-05-2003 09:34									#6
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I guess it's safe to say that the Inca and Maya are two of the eight new civs.

	15-05-2003 09:37									#7
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Gotta say I'm surprised about this news. I notice there's not much said about MP in the next expansion (maybe they're sticking with what they do best...no offense!).


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	15-05-2003 09:40									#8
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the scenario concentration for this expansion probably means improvements to modding, time increment control, etc

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btw my thoughts on the series is that it probably wont get to a sequel past Civilization 3 unless there are major changes to the game mechanics, so barring that, firaxis should focus on more expansion packs to polish the game and take care of all its problems.
anyone agree?

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Sid Meier's Civilization III: All Your Monies Are Belong To Us

	15-05-2003 09:54									#11
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There was mention of this, indirectly, earlier:

BRIGGS TALKS TO `MSNBC`
(1 May 2003, 22:24 | Civ3) MSNBC reporter Tom Luftus recently filed a story with the news network entitled "Virtual Nation Building" with the byline Iraq recovery could provide inspiration for strategy games. Firaxis Games President Jeff Briggs is one of the individuals interviewed for the piece talking about the Civilization series in relation to the background behind the story.

[R]eal world events has Briggs thinking about updating the [Civ] series. Among the features: An increased role for the media and a more true-to-life world governing body. In this more realistic setting Civilization’s United Nations component would be less kumbaya, more realpolitik. More powerful members would have the power to veto or go off and wage unilateral action. [..] But will such a game matter when it’s released, two or three years down the road? Briggs is not so sure... [..]

That sounded like they were developing Civ 3 XP2. I had my hopes after reading that on the Apolyton main page almost two weeks ago.

	15-05-2003 10:06									#12
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Sounds good to me. They had two expansions to Civ2, so why not.

	15-05-2003 10:40									#13
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quote: Originally posted by brianshapiro the scenario concentration for this expansion probably means improvements to modding, time increment control, etc

PTW already has time increment control. But it sounds like it's going to be possible to set diplomatic relations in a scenario.

	15-05-2003 10:51									#14
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you know I really love Civilization 3: PTW... everybody know Play The World is a little big... problematic for some reason.
MP is not fixed, scenario was shipped with some bug, and put inside folder with nothing (no text file about each scenario, nothing at all)...

But I really enjoy Play The World... this is like your girlfriend... she have many default... but there some things you really likes from her...

But I really dont want to pay for another expansion pack... and I really love the civ series... What I wanna do? I dont want to buy a expansion who will fixes MP and add some civilization. But I'm sure, if I'll buy this expansion pack, I will love it... Maybe if they change some things about the A.I. this will be fun.

I find something little paradoxal... What I wanted to hear is a new Civ4... with a whole new set of option, new A.I., new trade pact, more complexity... more and more...

But I'm sure when the Expansion will be out, I will be the first to buy the products!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... so bad.. I'm in love with a games!!! hahahahhahaha

see ya everyone...

	15-05-2003 11:10									#15
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I would not expect to hear about Civ4 for at least 2 more years.

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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 I would not expect to hear about Civ4 for at least 2 more years.

or more than that. there has always been quite a gap between the civ games

	15-05-2003 12:00									#17
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i hope they make relationshops a little more realistic. It annoys me that I can avoid war until the 1700s, never break a deal, freely trade even if its to my disadvantage, yet, at some point, everyone hates me and start declaring war on me. I think that the plusses of peaceful relationships are greatly under valued while any slight discretion is over magnified. I cant imagine a WW2 sscenatio where the brits attack america because the yanks auto raze some small town. I think that each time an agreement is renewed, its positive value should increase exponentially.

Another cool thing would be pirate units that once built will act independently like barbarians except that they wont attack their builder.

	15-05-2003 13:06									#18
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I want to see events.

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quote: Originally posted by Yolky new diplomacy options, new government types ... new resources, and new luxuries

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I have to say this one took me by surprise. Taking bets on the 8 new civs now...

• Incas
  
• Mayas
  
• Indonesians
  
• Poles
  
• Scots
  
• Hebrews/Israelis
  
• Abbassinians
  
• Maori
  

	15-05-2003 14:35									#21
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quote: Originally posted by War of Art I have to say this one took me by surprise. Taking bets on the 8 new civs now... Incas Mayas Indonesians Poles Scots Hebrews/Israelis Abbassinians Maori It's really getting hard to think of ones that would be worth including... And the UUs will be fun... -Jam

an exotic bunch you made up

cheers

	15-05-2003 14:43									#22
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I'm sure that I'll buy this game,
from an american shop so the patches will work on my system as well

It's great that a new expanse is coming,
does that mean that these forum will get back at the top of the forum list again?

	15-05-2003 14:44									#23
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anyone knows if we'll need PtW to run it?

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I would imagine so... they want to get every last cent from us

-Jam

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quote: Originally posted by War of Art I would imagine so... they want to get every last cent from us -Jam

it might include the PTW features

if not... will it be PtW compatible?

there are many things to be asked in this matter

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	15-05-2003 17:59									#26
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Look for these eight civs
Inca
Maya
Dutch
Hebrews
Byzantines
Khmer
Portugese/Poles
African civ (Ethiopia, Songhai, etc)

	15-05-2003 18:08									#27
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Pretty close to my tips. I can't believe I forgot the Byzantines though.

But what's with the Dutch?

	15-05-2003 18:13									#28
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They were a pretty important civ in their day, plus they have a great accent while speaking English

	15-05-2003 18:26									#29
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And they make some great movies

-Jam

	15-05-2003 18:58									#30
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BTW. it reads new government types...

is this something else than new governments?

what are the odds of fascism and fundamentalism?

many questions to be asked...

cheers