15-05-2003 09:26									#1
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I was just flipping through the channels, watched a foot race w/ a bunch of black guys and one white guy. Anyway, the slowest black guy outran the white guy. I assume the white guy had to be the fastest white guy on earth, just to be there. It struck me, over my many years, I have seen many such races end exactly the same way.

Why?

Why do fit white guys like me have zero chance in a race with most fit black guys?

	15-05-2003 09:31									#2
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Kenya is notorious for having some of the best runners in the world, and thats largely due to their altitude.

they train much higher than many others, and their lungs are adapted to working with a little less oxygen.

whwn they come to our level, they have less trouble breathing while running. thats why most marathons are won by Kenyans etc.

there are also a lot of studies on this about how african's stidated muscle tissue is stronger / more durable or something.

	15-05-2003 09:35									#3
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Also people from kenya are fairly tall and have a strong tradition of running long distance which doesn't really exist elsewhere in the world. Probably the best potential white runners don't spend all their time training for marathons like the kenyans.
And then thre's India which has pretty much the lowest number of olympic medals per capita...

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quote: Originally posted by Boshko And then thre's India which has pretty much the lowest number of olympic medals per capita...

they should kill off a lot of their capita.

	15-05-2003 09:36									#5
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX Kenya is notorious for having some of the best runners in the world, and thats largely due to their altitude. they train much higher than many others, and their lungs are adapted to working with a little less oxygen. whwn they come to our level, they have less trouble breathing while running. thats why most marathons are won by Kenyans etc. there are also a lot of studies on this about how african's stidated muscle tissue is stronger / more durable or something.

note, black americans dont win Marathons.
It doesnt have much to do with race(haha pun). Its an enviornmental thing. I'm not so sure about black's physiology being unique for athlethic superiority. I remember during PA Sociology class talking about this topic (and watching a documentary hosted by Carl lewis ), but I mostly forgot.

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I always thought it was simply because, in many of the poor African nations, other sports are rather costly.

But how much does it cost to run?

	15-05-2003 09:39									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I always thought it was simply because, in many of the poor African nations, other sports are rather costly. But how much does it cost to run?

they get the sneakers for free.

	15-05-2003 09:40									#8
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX they get the sneakers for free.

they dont, maybe that helps them even more.

"hey, im used to painfully running barefoot, but with all this cushiony thing, its not so bad... maybe ill go an extra mile"

	15-05-2003 09:41									#9
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Tour de France should be the same, it's like running, but different. Very few black bike races though...yes?

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Interesting question, blacks have traditionally lived in hotter climes so the body reacts over 10's of millennia and becomes lankier/taller to increase evaporation to regulate body temps. People who live in colder areas or have "recently migrated from colder areas have bulkier/shorter bodies to conserve heat. Longer legs usually translates into better foot speed...

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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Tour de France should be the same, it's like running, but different. Very few black bike races though...yes?

running and biking is a different sport.

If you argue that blacks are biologically superior in general, yes its weird that you dont see much blacks in bicycling.

But its not the case so its not all that strange.

	15-05-2003 09:46									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Interesting question, blacks have traditionally lived in hotter climes so the body reacts over 10's of millennia and becomes lankier/taller to increase evaporation to regulate body temps. People who live in colder areas or have "recently migrated from colder areas have bulkier/shorter bodies to conserve heat. Longer legs usually translates into better foot speed...

then a white man with same body porportion should have equal chance with blacks no?

But during competition a same sized whites often lose alot to blacks, so I dont think ur argument of "blacks win because they got longer legs" really work.

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i'll throw in the obligatory "they get all that practice running from the cops" comment now, so no important poster gets banned.

	15-05-2003 09:52									#14
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX i'll throw in the obligatory "they get all that practice running from the cops" comment now, so no important poster gets banned.

Don't give me a reason to close the thread

	15-05-2003 09:53									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Don't give me a reason to close the thread

yes massah. ubah dun wan no trubbles.

	15-05-2003 10:01									#16
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a lot of the runners from East Africa are so good because of the altitude at which they practice, and the temperature where they live. By comparison, running at the Olympics in, say, Atlanta seems like a walk in the park.

	15-05-2003 10:07									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Why do fit white guys like me have zero chance in a race with most fit black guys?

Your question is wrong.

An average white runner can beat an average black runner.

A fit white runner can easily win a race against a fit black boxer.

	15-05-2003 10:08									#18
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Ok Orange. So the general opinion here is that over great amounts of time, generations, some blacks have become geneticly superior at running, yes?

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i wouldn't go that far...there is that whole theory about the 'black calves' but I don't buy into it.

	15-05-2003 10:11									#20
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX Kenya is notorious for having some of the best runners in the world, and thats largely due to their altitude.

And attitude. I've seen shows about these runners and they grew up wanting to be like their heros and their heros were long-distance runners.

The star marathoners from Kenya have trained since they were kids. That doesn't happen as much as in other countries.

It's just like hockey. The best players are from Canada because hockey is THE sport in Canada.

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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker Interesting question, blacks have traditionally lived in hotter climes so the body reacts over 10's of millennia and becomes lankier/taller to increase evaporation to regulate body temps. People who live in colder areas or have "recently migrated from colder areas have bulkier/shorter bodies to conserve heat. Longer legs usually translates into better foot speed...

And that explains why the bushmen and the pygmies are so tall.

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Tingkai, are you saying that white track people lack attitude?

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No, what I'm saying is that Kenya produces a lot of great marathon runners because it is a popular sport there. The attitude there, for many kids, is "I want to be a marathon runner." The attitude of Canadian kids tends to be "I want to be a hockey player."

As a result, Kenya produces a lot of the top marathon runners while Canada produces top hockey players.

It has very little to do with race and a lot to do with when kids start training and how hard they work at a particular sport.

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"It has very little to do with race and a lot to do with when kids start training and how hard they work at a particular sport."

Sounds alot like 'white track people lack attitude' to me.'

	15-05-2003 10:39									#26
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quote: Originally posted by orange a lot of the runners from East Africa are so good because of the altitude at which they practice, and the temperature where they live. By comparison, running at the Olympics in, say, Atlanta seems like a walk in the park.

It's not just altitude. There are lots of people who train at altitude and it has minimal effect. It's much more likely a racial effect of body type. You don't see pygmies in the NBA, right? Certain races are better at certain physical tasks because of physique.

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quote: Originally posted by Tingkai And that explains why the bushmen and the pygmies are so tall.

Bushmen and pygmies will be short even if they are raised in other terrain/climates. They have short genes. Same is true in opposite for Mesai tribesmen. There is a lot of diversity in the "black" race. West Africans tend to be good sprinters. East AFricans tend to be good distance runners. Physiques are noticeably different.

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whatever the truth is some things are apparent. lots of white guys wanted to be boxers. but none of them are ever heavyweight champion.

same w/ running, no white man has even broken 10 seconds in the 100 meter. there's counter arguments in anecdotes to the case for black athletic advantages. but the basis that when black culture is interested in a sport they appear to utterly dominate it is pretty apparent.

blacks are a minority in the population, a minority in the high school basketball population, not sure about college, but lotsa white college basketball players. then its pretty much 7 foot foreigners and black guys in the nba.

	15-05-2003 11:07									#29
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I think it's because they have more fast-twitch muscle fiber.

That makes them better at rapping, too.

	15-05-2003 11:23									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer I was just flipping through the channels, watched a foot race w/ a bunch of black guys and one white guy. Anyway, the slowest black guy outran the white guy. I assume the white guy had to be the fastest white guy on earth, just to be there. It struck me, over my many years, I have seen many such races end exactly the same way. Why? Why do fit white guys like me have zero chance in a race with most fit black guys?

I run varsity track. In district I out ran everybody but one black guy and one Mexican, beating several blacks, mexicans and whites (there were no asians... i assume because they are too busy studying instead of physical competition ). I could have beaten that Mexican tho, i just didnt wont to go to regionals.

So, from my experience, the list of athleticism by race goes as follows:

1) black
2) white
3) hispanic
4) asian