26-05-2003 01:31									#241
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quote: Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave I am sure that together they will kick the "architects ass" - anyway he really is a lovable charachter.

I think that would be an excellent idea, but, alas, from the trailer for Revolution, it looks like that won't happen.

	26-05-2003 01:34									#242
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The Architect sure is a smug bastard, isn't he?

	26-05-2003 01:44									#243
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The Interview (1998) is also a great movie with Hugo Weaving

	26-05-2003 02:00									#244
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quote: Originally posted by Rogan Josh I think that would be an excellent idea, but, alas, from the trailer for Revolution, it looks like that won't happen.

haven't seen the trailer, but maybe there is a catch, at least this movie hints at such ending - the two coexisting -the machines and humans, I can just see Mr Smith and Mr Anderson being best buddies at the end going together on a pint of peace.

Still the fact that Mr Smith rebelled and that his "human minion" survived has to play a major part in the end as there is so few humans left after Zion was destroyed.

	26-05-2003 02:13									#245
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The trailer certainly made it look like the ending will be a major showdown battle between Neo and Agent Smith.

	26-05-2003 02:14									#246
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I don't think so, RJ. mind you, the Reloaded trailers never said anything about the architect, for example.

	26-05-2003 02:23									#247
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Remember the bit with the legions of Agent Smiths standing in ranks with the rain pouring down,
as the original Agent Smith and Neo charge towards each other superfast with grimaces on their faces and speed streaks behind them.

They didn't look very friendly to me!

	26-05-2003 02:51									#248
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well maybe that will be a moment of reconciliation - Mr Smith will just realise that there is greater purpose to existance than destroying Mr Anderson and they will unite and the Armies of MR Smiths which will actually be neccessary to take over the Matrix and set the humans free with some alternative source of energie already available to run the Matrix for the programs only etc... maybe we find out that the architecht was a freak and that his goal was creating the "perfect" matrix and that he needed no humans for batteries anymore but that it was just his AI obsession...

Still some reconciliation should follow as I can see them both together - Mr Anderson has made some contact with the machines even in the real world, and Mr Smith has breached the mechanical/human world from the machine side - which to me leads to a happy pint of peace at the end, but well... maybe my imagination is just too optimistic.

We shall see as they say.

	26-05-2003 02:57									#249
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Maybe they are rushing towards each other so they can give each other a big hug??

	26-05-2003 03:36									#250
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quote: Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave Still the fact that Mr Smith rebelled and that his "human minion" survived has to play a major part in the end as there is so few humans left after Zion was destroyed.

Huh? - Zion is not destroyed yet.

	02-06-2003 12:49									#251
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Good movie, but OVERRATED

	06-06-2003 03:48									#252
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RJ, that rain sequence? i've seen it in pictures but it wasn't in Reloaded!!!!!


????

	06-06-2003 03:56									#253
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Did you wait until the end? The only rain sequence I can think of is in the preview of Revolutions after the credits.

Zion is destroyed. The ship that picked them up at the end said they swung through the ruins and found one survivor, who also happens to be the human Smith copied himself to. Coincidence? I think not...

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quote: Originally posted by Harry Seldon Zion is destroyed. The ship that picked them up at the end said they swung through the ruins and found one survivor, who also happens to be the human Smith copied himself to. Coincidence? I think not...

No, that was just the battle scene. The machines destroyed the human army, and were then going to head for Zion.

	06-06-2003 04:02									#255
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Are you sure about that? I thought they said it was a slaughter. Not to say you're wrong, per se. I viciously attacked one of my coworkers because I thought Naiobi(sp) had died in the backup grid office and was horribly wrong on that score.

	06-06-2003 04:15									#256
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Pretty sure... if you see scenes from the next movie you see Morpheus in one of those walker things, probably helping to defend Zion. The "only survivor" was of the battle. The guy Agent Smith infected was on one of the ships which was trying to ambush the machines, but he fired first, and the entire armada was destroyed. I'm 99% sure of that.

	06-06-2003 19:45									#257
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And at least Zee must have survived. She'll surely get a bigger part in Revolutions.

Has anyone here played, or even bought "Enter the Matrix", by the way?

	06-06-2003 20:10									#258
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Who's Zee? I don't remember her. Also, did you notice that Tank was in the preview for Revolutions, the guy that killed Cypher and got Neo and Trinity out of the Matrix?

	06-06-2003 20:15									#259
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I'm pretty sure Tank was killed. Or do you mean Tank's little brother?

And Jesus Christ, man, why o why is your named spelled that way?

	06-06-2003 20:17									#260
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quote: Maybe they are rushing towards each other so they can give each other a big hug??

	06-06-2003 20:35									#261
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Zee is the wife of Link. She only appeared in one scene so far, but it's the role Aaliyah was supposed to have.

Tank wasn't really killed. Dozer (Tank's big brother) was killed. But they decided Tank died of his wounds after all, because Marcus Chong (the actor who played Tank) got greedy and wanted the same pay as Keanu, Laurence and Carrie-Anne...

So I seriously doubt you saw Tank in the preview. Probably some guy who looked like him.

	06-06-2003 20:39									#262
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quote: Originally posted by Mercator Tank wasn't really killed. Dozer (Tank's big brother) was killed. But they decided Tank died of his wounds after all, because Marcus Chong (the actor who played Tank) got greedy and wanted the same pay as Keanu, Laurence and Carrie-Anne...

So that's the reason he got axed! I had been wondering why that happened.

	06-06-2003 20:58									#263
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enter the matrix, as a game, sucked. i had more fun reading the walkthrough faq to find out the story than trying to slug through one half of the game.

	06-06-2003 23:03									#264
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quote: Originally posted by Lorizael And Jesus Christ, man, why o why is your named spelled that way?

You must have me confused with a certain psychohistory expert. Common mistake.

I would swear I saw Tank in it. I'm going to have to go see it again to make sure. It's only for a split second. I was looking up some of the actors from the Matrix at imdb and that guy that played Tank has only been in maybe two roles that he actually had a real name and not "Bar Stand in #81." What an ass if he tried to get paid what the bigger stars were making. He should've used it as a platform for other things. People baffle me.

	06-06-2003 23:07									#265
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Yep, they're right. He abandoned ship and "died" in the process, so I'm pretty sure he won't be back in Revolutions. In Reloaded they also mentioned something about how Tank had tried to get him (Link) the spot on Morpheus' ship "before he left," and then Zee has an emotional moment.

	06-06-2003 23:10									#266
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She mentioned that she lost two brothers to that ship, too, which sounds like he's dead. I didn't know if he was going to come wandering back into Zion in some Gandolf like attire talking about communing with the Machines...

	06-06-2003 23:12									#267
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that's a shame about tank.

"Tank, get me out of here" could become one of those cliche golden frases. it was on it's way.

	06-06-2003 23:32									#268
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Ok, here's a killer trailer I found. It's not the same one that's shown at the end of Reloaded but it's legit.

http://www.movie-list.com/m/matrixrevolutions.shtml

Now, about two-thirds of the way through the trailer they show a guy in a Mech that I would swear is Tank. Am I just crazy?!?

	06-06-2003 23:38									#269
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It looks like an Asian guy to me, when I pause it.

	06-06-2003 23:41									#270
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Damn; you're right. It's that guy that met the Nebekanezer when it docked at Zion. The one there to keep the peace.