19-05-2003 04:36									#31
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	19-05-2003 05:34									#32
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Well I'm online the whole time... so its not really a factor for me

Jam

	19-05-2003 07:45									#33
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Next turns up… I’ll be on MSN for the next 5 to 6 hours if anyone wishes to do it then, if now many people can make it we will hold it off until a more convenient time.

-Chairman Voltaire

	19-05-2003 11:18									#34
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Colony Pod and Scout to the west explored a pod and discovered mineral deposits;
Colony Pod and Scout to the northwest explored a pod and discovered 25 energy credits;
Scout to the southwest returned to base to defend it;
Monolith now used for resource; &
Colony Pod production started,

	19-05-2003 12:25									#35
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Voltaire:

If you set your energy sliders to30% economy, 60% labs and 10% psych your research rate for your next tech discovery will drop from 8 turns to 5 or thereabouts

The inefficiency penalty is minescule this early when only 1 base is running and the absolute # of ec's being distributed is so small (with the rounding factor).

Load the turn again and experiment with the sliders and you'll see what I mean (no tampering message, as the turn has been sent, and, of course, you'll move the units the same way so as not to reveal more map)

Of course, if you do a conventional save before the turn end then that's even better, as all your units will already have moved and you can still adjust the SE settings and ecnergy allocation

G.

	19-05-2003 15:26									#36
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How much energy would we need to rush that colony pod and when can that be done?

*calls micha, current economic minister*

start calculating my minion!

also my MSN:noahtrek@hotmail.com I will try and be on as often as possible.

Last edited by Haon on 19-05-2003 at 15:34

	19-05-2003 15:57									#37
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We'll need to bank some energy just for changing our SE choices as soon as possible so we should try to make some profit every turn.

-Jam

	19-05-2003 19:09									#38
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And at Transcend level, SE changes will cost 40 ec's. And no reason not to change to Police as soon as you have 40 ec's and more than 2 units supported from a base, as the extra free units will pay for themselves in minerals saved within few turns.

Efficiency does get hit, but until you get the first efficiency warning it's not too big a deal - after that, of course, it does become a bigger deal but by then you are cranking out the minerals and energy anyway and will prolly have creches in every base to restore the lost 20%

	19-05-2003 21:36									#39
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Effic shouldn't get hit - we are the Hive, and immune to effic penalties. We can't go below 0 can we?

-Jam

	19-05-2003 22:06									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Haon How much energy would we need to rush that colony pod and when can that be done? *calls micha, current economic minister* start calculating my minion! also my MSN:noahtrek@hotmail.com I will try and be on as often as possible.

Rushing the pod would be useless. We are going to grow the same turn it is built (9 turns).... efficiency is already maximized. But thanks for that tip regarding the pysch and economic settings and that Googlie, I will bring it to our glorious comrade's attention.

	19-05-2003 23:40									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski We'll need to bank some energy just for changing our SE choices as soon as possible so we should try to make some profit every turn.

Yes, we need to keep these credits in reserve. These 25 ec's are a lucky break for us and the restart has been very good to us, netting us another monolith as well. If we can get a third monolith from that last pod in our base radius that would be great too.

	20-05-2003 02:40									#42
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I would start praying to God if that happened

-Jam

	20-05-2003 03:07									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Effic shouldn't get hit - we are the Hive, and immune to effic penalties. We can't go below 0 can we? -Jam

You're right - I'd totally forgotten that (I don't often play as the Hive in SP or PBEM games)

G.

	20-05-2003 23:25									#44
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I agree that we should save the credits. I've missed the last couple of sessions so forgive this question if it was asked but...

Are there plans for active worm hunting to increase our reserves, or take them as they come?

	20-05-2003 23:38									#45
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* Jamski likes the idea of going worm hunting

Pass me that impact rifle will you?

-Jam

	21-05-2003 03:28									#46
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Now that our turn is here, when would the next Party Meeting be?

Never mind, just found out.

	21-05-2003 03:46									#47
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	21-05-2003 03:50									#48
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That's a really small fungal tower BTW

-Jam

	21-05-2003 03:57									#49
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We'll have lots of fungus for dinner soon!

	21-05-2003 04:34									#50
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thanks for the update, Chairman.

Sorry I wasn't able to participate....I'm at work right now...

	21-05-2003 07:44									#51
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I dont see any reason we cant attack that fungal tower, the sooner the better.

	21-05-2003 12:35									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Haon I dont see any reason we cant attack that fungal tower, the sooner the better.

I'm not sure we're in a position to kill it immediately, even that small. And it will be worth more ECs when it grows larger. Of course it will be harder to kill as well, and may spawn a few worms. I'd like to see what's on the other side of it too. Perhaps it might serve a defensive purpose.

	21-05-2003 14:44									#53
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(fun fun fun, our first major policy decision! )

quote: I'm not sure we're in a position to kill it immediately, even that small. And it will be worth more ECs when it grows larger. Of course it will be harder to kill as well, and may spawn a few worms. I'd like to see what's on the other side of it too. Perhaps it might serve a defensive purpose.

Comrade Static Universe, while I respect your decision, I must remain firm in the belief that the Fungal Tower must be destroyed. Here are my reasons.

1) It spawns that horrible red xenofungus which we currently can not harvest. Thus is lowers our industrial, scientific, and economic potential.

2) Though I would love to go worm hunting, at the moment, our forces are to small to make any sort of effective kill teams, and base defense is currently our first and most important priority. I would hate for our forces to be drawn out to attack the tower only to have a boil come and kill our citizens!

3) We may very well be on a small land area and we would need to be able to use as much land area as possible, which that fungal tower prevents.

4) Even if we do attack it later, it may take 2 or maybe even three units to remove it. And I do not see it as a good use of resources to remove a Fungal Tower so late in the game when our mlitary is in the balance.

5) Destroying it now will give us an earlie rmore noticable economic boost rather then having to wait for a boost later which may not even be noticable.

There are my reasons for the destruction of that fungal tower immediately.

	21-05-2003 16:03									#54
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More xenofungus is bad, plus they taste horrible

	21-05-2003 16:05									#55
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Now if only someone in the propoganda department can make a poster with a fungal tower, with writing in big bold letters saying "KNOW THE ENEMY!"

	21-05-2003 17:22									#56
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Someone work out the chances of beating a green tower with a green scout patrol please?

-Jam

	21-05-2003 18:11									#57
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The scouts are Green? His "icon" does not look like the "green" icon.

	21-05-2003 19:27									#58
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Preferences have been set to "confirm odds before attacking", so you can move the scout to the fungal tower square, and the odds wiill pop up (they're actually 16 to 7 at this stage in the game, I believe), with a "cancel/proceed"choice

If you cancel, the scout's full movement point is still available to go somewhere else. If you proceed, he attacks the tower

G.

	21-05-2003 20:28									#59
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The scout SHOULD be green, he's brand new.... or did e stand on a monolith some time?

-Jam

	21-05-2003 21:01									#60
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As we had no + or - morale factions I made everyone disciplined at the start (after the first playtest) to counter the more frequent appearance of early mindworms

It makes no difference vis-a-vis the factions, but given the increased odds of popping worms or isles, makes the early game a bit more enjoyable

G.