19-05-2003 04:27									#61
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quote: Andrew J. Castor, 14, of 1432 S.E. 24th Ave. was arrested on charges of felony cruelty to animals, feeding a gator and the theft of the cat.

I can see charges 1 and 3 sticking, but charge 2, feeding a gator? Is that a criminal offence

But it leaves one burning question...does cat taste good.

Just remember, if cats were bigger, they'd eat us

	19-05-2003 04:27									#62
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quote: Originally posted by GePap A cat can't be murdered, by definition of murder.

Thats a technicality at best, Gepap.

quote: The child broke the law and should be punished, but i don't think the maximum is correct, given the lack of priors. A stiff fine and community service would suffice.

And some psychiatric help, obviously.

	19-05-2003 04:29									#63
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he's not "sick" as some here have suggested. he's just a curious boy, possibly with a bad upbringing. who here can honsetly say they've never ripped the wings off a fly, peed on an anthill or similar?

	19-05-2003 04:30									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Thats a technicality at best, Gepap. .

No, anymore than the difference between manslaughter and murder is a technicality. The crime of murder simply does not apply to non-humans, as long as they have not been accepted as members with rights of the community.

	19-05-2003 04:34									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 Thats a technicality at best, Gepap. And some psychiatric help, obviously.

Dammit, by those definitions, I am the Chikotilo of the rat world

	19-05-2003 04:36									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf he's not "sick" as some here have suggested. he's just a curious boy, possibly with a bad upbringing. who here can honsetly say they've never ripped the wings off a fly, peed on an anthill or similar?

I can!!!

Peed on an anthill?! Is this what they teach you Americans in preschool?!?!?!

"What would happen if I kicked this kitty in the stomach and the head and then threw it to the gator???" He's just a curious little boy, isn't he?

	19-05-2003 04:41									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison I can see charges 1 and 3 sticking, but charge 2, feeding a gator? Is that a criminal offence But it leaves one burning question...does cat taste good. Just remember, if cats were bigger, they'd eat us

That reminds me of a man who went to court for killing an endangered bald eagle.

Judge: Why did you kill the eagle sir?

Defendant: I am deeply sorry your honor but I was hungry so I cooked him and ate him.

Judge: Well that will be a $500. fine. By the way, I am curious; what does a bald eagle taste like?

Defendant: It tastes kind of like a Condor but probably is more similar to a spotted owl...

	19-05-2003 04:41									#68
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The microwave is far more fun with kitties

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Listen now folks, if you're going to sentence him to a prison, you might as well execute him -- his life is ruined after the sentence and he won't enjoy his life anyway -- suffering from eternal guilt and bitterness.

Will commit suicide or start using drugs during the first 6 months, I'd say. Sending him into prison would be pure hypocricy, considering the living conditions in US prisons.

	19-05-2003 04:42									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Lincoln That reminds me of a man who went to court for killing an endangered bald eagle. Judge: Why did you kill the eagle sir? Defendant: I am deeply sorry your honor but I was hungry so I cooked him and ate him. Judge: Well that will be a $500. fine. By the way, I am curious; what does a bald eagle taste like? Defendant: It tastes kind of like a Condor but probably is more similar to a spotted owl...

	19-05-2003 04:43									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Dammit, by those definitions, I am the Chikotilo of the rat world

And I am guilty of genocide. (I wiped out a whole colony of ants that invaded my kitchen.)

	19-05-2003 04:45									#72
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Won't somebody please think of the gators!

They have to eat too you know.

Plus they don't keep people awake all night with their noisy lovemaking.

	19-05-2003 04:48									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Won't somebody please think of the gators! They have to eat too you know. Plus they don't keep people awake all night with their noisy lovemaking.

Amen to that, I've had to throw buckets of water at the bloody things at 4 in the morning before Give me a nice doggy anyday

	19-05-2003 04:50									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Tassadar5000 "What would happen if I kicked this kitty in the stomach and the head and then threw it to the gator???" He's just a curious little boy, isn't he?

I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. Just, don't treat him like a psycho or a criminal. No one will benefit from that.
Make him work at an animal shelter or something and he'll learn not to go around and feed pets to aligators

	19-05-2003 04:51									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf Make him work at an animal shelter

That's like making a pedophile work at a school.

	19-05-2003 04:53									#76
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Feed the pedophile to the gator, send the boy to school.

	19-05-2003 04:56									#77
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quote: That's like making a pedophile work at a school

if he really is a sicko, then yes. but if we go with the curious little boy scenario then it may make wonders

	19-05-2003 04:59									#78
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc That's like making a pedophile work at a school.

u said that already!

quote: Listen now folks, if you're going to sentence him to a prison, you might as well execute him -- his life is ruined after the sentence and he won't enjoy his life anyway -- suffering from eternal guilt and bitterness. Will commit suicide or start using drugs during the first 6 months, I'd say. Sending him into prison would be pure hypocricy, considering the living conditions in US prisons.

I agree... Ruin a boy's life... Over a ****ing cat!!!????

quote: he's not "sick" as some here have suggested. he's just a curious boy, possibly with a bad upbringing. who here can honsetly say they've never ripped the wings off a fly, peed on an anthill or similar?

I would agree with this statement, but the article said he beat up the cat before feeding it. I probably would have chucked mice, rabbits and stuff to gator myself if I was little kid in florida to see the gator "hunt" something. But beating up a cat was kinda unnecessary.

He also tried to lie so I dont buy into the whole "he felt guilty and tried to undo it as soon as he threw in the cat".


He needs severe punishment, but preferrably in a way that doesnt ruin his life. over a ****ing cat people!

	19-05-2003 05:00									#79
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Yes, some people do need a sense of proportion here. This isn't murder because it is a cat. He should get some community service and counseling. No more.

	19-05-2003 05:21									#80
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* Get a grip. It's a ****ing cat people.

To you it is. Not the owner, for her it's a compagnion.

	19-05-2003 05:41									#81
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quote: Originally posted by Zero u said that already!

Someone made the same exact stupid statement.

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quote: Originally posted by Gangerolf if he really is a sicko, then yes. but if we go with the curious little boy scenario then it may make wonders

Where is this "an innocent curious boy" arguement coming from? I mean, its pretty obvious what happens when you feed a cat to an alligator....IT DIES!!!

I know Americans are stupid, but even this is a strech

	19-05-2003 07:11									#83
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quote: Originally posted by *End Is Forever* One third of Americans have no access to healthcare. And you're lecturing me about empathy?

Yeah I know, they are always here at the hospital being treated at everyone else's expense. What 1/3 of Americans don't have isn't access to healthcare, it's an insurance bill to pay every month.

	19-05-2003 07:12									#84
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I say we feed congresspeople to gators instead. Much more expendable, and not anywhere near as cute.

	19-05-2003 07:13									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Firelad Damn! Can't find that bloody quote by Octave Mirebau (Or was it someone else?). Some of you people would really benefit from it... Even better, read a story or a novel by him. Frankly, I'm still looking for a full translation to read... What it says, far more eloquently than I am able, is that as long as people are cruel, murderous and unfeeling to animals they will be the same to other humans. Just as ertain human beings were seen inferior and therefore "fair game" (a good chunk of my relatives some two and three generations back were exterminated that way), people now say "it's just a cat". If any distinction should be made, it is that the kid has the power of reason that should enable him to see what is right and what is wrong. Cats and other animals do not have this power, yet somehow they are far, far less prone to cause suffering and death just for the bloody sake of it.

You sir don't know your cats. There is nothing many cats enjoy more than capturing a small animal and slowly tearing apart. Not to eat, just for the entertainment.

	19-05-2003 07:15									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander You sir don't know your cats. There is nothing many cats enjoy more than capturing a small animal and slowly tearing apart. Not to eat, just for the entertainment.

Wise words

	19-05-2003 07:18									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior I say we feed congresspeople to gators instead. Much more expendable, and not anywhere near as cute.

They tried to do this in the 19th century, but the alligators just kept throwing them back.

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I'll be the first to admit...

I'm sort of curious as to what a gator eating a cat looks like, too.

	19-05-2003 07:24									#89
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I agree with those who think he should get some community service / fine / counseling. I was as violent as many when I was this kids age, with access to weapons and explosives and all sorts of animals. I hunted and fished and killed vermin and varmints, but I never for a second ever thought of killing someone's pet. That is really profoundly mean-spirited.

	19-05-2003 07:31									#90
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But 5 years is longer than some pedophiles get.


I will join the greek chorus. It's a ****ing cat!