27-06-2003 19:56									#61
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Well, the question is that I don't think I have clearly understood the rules:

During the 15 turns I just played 2 cities have been deadly threatened by barb attacks and 2 other cities have switched to civil disorder.
If I had done nothing, the first 2 cities would have disappeared and the other 2 would still remain in disorder after many turns. What I did is taking action when the barb threat became deadly, and also take action after a few turns of disorder.
What was I supposed to do ?
(I am 'almost' ready to play again if I played against the rules)

Anyway here is the shorter log:

50BC: Our horseman and our warrior both die trying to protect our eastern city against barb archers. Our diplomat bribes one of the archers.
25BC: The remaining barb archer (heavily wounded) dies when attacking the one we just bribed. The city is safe.
60AD: Ant's nest under heavy attack by barb horsemen who kill our fortified legion for a start.
80AD: Our mighty warrior kills one horseman, and we rushbuild a horseman in the meantime
100AD: Remaining barb horseman killed. Ant's nest is safe.
140AD: Our verywisemen discover BW and start researching Republic ; hut = 50g
180AD: Hut = 50g

Our scouting units also discovered 4 advanced tribes !
What a pity ! We are now close to 'black faces'.

(perhaps it would be wise not to tip any more huts for a while)

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	27-06-2003 20:26									#62
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Very good La Fayette -- yes major disruptions or barb threats certainly justify the call to action.

	27-06-2003 20:30									#63
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Got the save. Two questions:

1) Did we agree on Oldetown being an "open" city?

2) Which city is mine? (Or do I just pick one?)

	27-06-2003 21:17									#64
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I haven’t looked at a recent save, but Oldetown was the planned capital & SSC. Slowville I started as mine; as far as I can tell, ant’s nest is atomant’s, Stracoco is Straybow’s, Tatooine is Obiwan18’s, Doldrums is BobSmurf42’s, Warrenville belongs to JRabbit & I didn’t see what La Fayette claimed yet.

Vlad, feel free to found a city or you may have an existing one not otherwise claimed (either now or later should we capture some wondrous foreign city.) Please let other know which one is “yours”.

All, I’ll be away for the weekend, and at some risk for computer access for the next week, so if Vlad is quick, Straybow can have a chance to jump in -- feel free, I’ll follow as soon as I can.

	27-06-2003 21:24									#65
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I didn't wish to found any city , since I had discovered 4 advanced tribes. 2 of these are so ill placed that I have named them 'Delendapolis' and 'Toofaraway'.
If I have to choose one immediately, it will be one of the Southern cities: either Evenolder or Late Tribe. I don't care which.

	27-06-2003 22:25									#66
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Okay, renamed "evenolder" to "Lafayette" (Lafayette, if you want the name to be changed, let me know) and "Late Tribe" to "Antlergrad".

One more question: If a city starts building a wonder, am I allowed to switch it to something else? (Note: the AI STILL does this in Civ III. Some things never change. )

	28-06-2003 02:43									#67
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Unfortunately, I think that we have to let it be. I toyed with the auto stuff and one of my cities started a wonder, only to have it beaten by an ai…

Of course, depending upon the wonder, you CAN ship camels into helping the progress along...

	30-06-2003 00:45									#68
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Inherited: Renamed cities, fired governor of Antlergrad.

(1) 260 AD: Barbs land on peninsula west of Straycoco. Oldetown trireme-->diplo.
(2) 280 AD: Another landing on the same peninsula. Straycoco goes into disorder. Unfortunately, the only way I can keep it out of disorder is by starving it back down to size 2...
(3) 300 AD: zzzz
(4) 320 AD: Straycoco settlers autodisband. My bad. Forgot that when a city starves, the first thing to go are any supported settlers. Been playing too much Civ III. Doldrums temple-->Great Library.
(5) 340 AD: zzzz
(6) 360 AD: Greeks build Oracle. Another Greek city building the Oracle cascades to the Great Library. Oldetown diplo-->trireme.
(7) 380 AD: Germans get Philosophy. We discover Currency, start research on Trade. Oldetown-Ant's Nest road completed. arty:
(8) 400 AD: Yanks build Great Wall. Straycoco Settlers-->phalanx.
(9) 420 AD: Warrenville Settlers-->phalanx. Completion of home continent effectively done; no other civs found yet.
(10) 440 AD: Diplomat lands on hut on eastern island, pops barbs , runs like hell back onto boat.
(11) 460 AD: zzz
(12) 480 AD: Rushed settlers in Antlergrad. German trireme sighted in the north, but can't get any contact from it.



(13) 500 AD: Antlergrad settlers-->temple. Oldetown trireme-->library.
(14) 520 AD: Lafayette temple-->marketplace.
(15) 540 AD: Governor in Antlergrad rehired.

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	30-06-2003 11:56									#69
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All these royal cousins and bástards we have to "hire" as governors—nepotism and inbreeding will be the downfall of our glorious empire.

	01-07-2003 19:35									#70
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I have the save & will start round two today (or tomorrow. )

	02-07-2003 00:38									#71
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This ruleset is designed for fast play -- only 2 cities to manage, plus a bit of watchfulness to prevent problems among the auto-govs.

	02-07-2003 21:40									#72
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Open the save at 560 & discover that the Greeks now have the Great Library, so Doldrums is now saving shields for some other Wonder.

(1) 560 -- Slowville reconsiders the build & switches to a temple. Meet the Americans -- give away Mon, 100g, HBR for peace.

(2) 580 -- Slowville builds a temple, starts a dip.

(3) 600 -- Move a few citizens to work better spaces.

(4) 620 -- Hut in the South gives us Wheel.

(5) 640 -- Toofaraway blows up (elvis hired)

(6) 660 -- Toofaraway recovers.

(7) 680 -- Discover Trade -- opt for Rep over Con, Math, Myst, Poly, WC; WLtKD ends in Oldetown, now at size 5

(8) 700 -- (Russia starts Copes)

(9) 720 -- Hut in south yields 50g. Approching barbarian Archer (now two spaces away from Tatooine causes the ruler to switch production to a horse(rushed) then a chariot (rushed).

(10) 740 -- Oldetown Settler joins back in -- Oldetown can now work ten shields per turn. Chariot slays barbarian, Tatooine goes back to domestic advisor. Slowville back on domestic advisor.

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	10-07-2003 18:20									#73
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Hmmm I play, I step out for vacation & the ball drops. Oh well, it is a lazy summer after all.

Play order:

Old n Slow
atomant (MIA)
Straybow
obiwan18
Bob_Smurf42
Jrabbit
La Fayette
Vlad Antlerkov

Ten turns each, please.

	10-07-2003 23:03									#74
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There was an atomant sighting on another thread in this forum today. Maybe he'll pick up the ball...

Welcome back, BTW...

	11-07-2003 10:30									#75
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I'll wait a couple days to see if atomant shows up.

	11-07-2003 10:39									#76
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Stray
If I were you, I would play at once (and Atomant would play after me as soon as he would get accustomed with his new first class laptop).

	11-07-2003 11:38									#77
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I'm up in Silly Rules also, which takes some concentration above the norm

perhaps I should do Lazy Days first. Well, it won't be tonight anyway.

	11-07-2003 11:53									#78
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still out of action, but should be back on the ball by tuesday next week. I need to do some house keeping stuff in the interim.

	11-07-2003 22:13									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow I'm up in Silly Rules also, which takes some concentration above the norm

Sure it does
Even a wery experienced player runs the risk to forget one of those silly silly rules on the way.
Perhaps an experienced cheater would do better

	12-07-2003 07:15									#80
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Cheater, hmph! I resemble that remark!

Just leave Straycoco on Temple construction. The idiot governor can't handle that task, and since it's only going at 1 shield per turn, it amounts to the same thing.

I left Doldrums on GL because somebody can eventually switch it to something useful.

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	12-07-2003 22:22									#81
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Playing Murmansk Front in RFDG
Cityplanner in C2DG
and now up in this sxn game?

That's what a week of work will do for you.

I'll do this LIFO, for all you magic fanatics.

	13-07-2003 00:36									#82
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AD 920:

Taking over from the errant archer:

Lafayette in disorder, otherwise all is well.
I notice that Tatooine is only size 2. A pedestrian fringe.

Can I redistribute workers, Elvii no longer needed in other towns?

On second thought, I think we will continue building the Great Library.

Hits enter.

940: Antlergrad builds Phalanx

960: We discover Republic! (Begin revolution)
Select Mysticism as the next tech to research.

Slowville builds food caravan
Trade route established between Washington and

Slowville, 205 gold.
That gets us most of the way to Mysticism!

980:
Tatooine size 3
Oldetown builds food caravan
Silk to Washington, 95 gold.
Fills our beaker bin!
Trireme captures barbarian leader.
Rush Marketplace in Tatooine.

Meet with Japanese. Japanese demand 200 gold.
go to war.
Legion spanks Elephant and settler.

1000:

Warrior spears damaged legion.
Horseman smashes catapult
Trireme spies stacked catapult, loses.

1020:

Amazing vet Warrior pummels vet Horse
I want the head of that troop!
Establish Republic
Disband obsolete troops no longer needed for martial law
Taxes now at 30/60/10
Discoveries every 6 turns
Rush marketplaces in Lafayette and temple in Straycoco.

1040

Russians finish Copernicus' Observatory.

Discover Mysticism,
Select Philosophy
Toofaraway builds library.
Raise science to 70 percent to maintain discoveries every 6 turns.

1060

Disband another warrior in Antlergrad. I guess I missed one.
Take risk to cut off a turn, Trireme sinks.

1080

Viking tourists declare our civilisation, most tempting to pillage.


1100

Diplomat explores American territory
New trade expedition launched.


And before I forget,
the save.

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	13-07-2003 00:46									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow Cheater, hmph! I resemble that remark!

I hope you didn't think I was writing about you.
I was miles away from that.
Please excuse my poor English

	14-07-2003 18:49									#84
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Bob_Smurf42 seems to be up next... I think...

	18-07-2003 18:17									#85
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Yes, you're right, we're waiting for Bob_Smurf42

but JRabbit, after your RL obligations & other civ obligations, you're after him...

	20-07-2003 07:04									#86
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette I hope you didn't think I was writing about you. I was miles away from that. Please excuse my poor English

Oh, not at all. When one says, "I resemble (instead of resent) that remark," rest assured that no insult is taken.

We experienced cheaters are not to be ashamed. Who hasn't been playing a game for relaxation and done the odd reload when the hut spits out a half-dozen barbs? We just are not to taint succession games, MP, and competitions by the practice.

	25-07-2003 00:53									#87
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La Fayette, we're looking for a rescue -- JRabbit is up in the Silly game as well as the 'Burbs -- haven't seen Bob_Smurf for a while either...

Play order:

Old n Slow
atomant (MIA)
Straybow
obiwan18
Bob_Smurf42
Jrabbit
La Fayette
Vlad Antlerkov

Ten turns each, please.

	25-07-2003 01:25									#88
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OK
I am not THAT lazy
I'll play tomorrow

	25-07-2003 18:14									#89
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quote: JRabbit is up in the Silly game as well as the 'Burbs

Thanks for the alert, Old n Slow. Will check back in here once done with those.

	26-07-2003 00:43									#90
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Lazy log:

1140: Philosophy discovered, Polytheism started

1200: Barb attack near Antlergrad. Our valiant chariot kills 2 Barb archers.

1220: One more archer . Chariot promoted vet .

1240: Polytheism discovered, Medicine researched. Gold to Washington = 180g

1260: Plinae says we are #5 in research (Americans #2). Americans will have 250g, we say 'nuts' = war (this should provide us a nice opportunity to steal techs).
Wine to Atlanta = 228g

1280: Medicine discovered, Mono started.


(lazy LF after retirement)

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