25-08-2003 18:31									#121
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I see Stray just posted his turnlog in the Seriously Tricky game. I [U]know[/] those are time-consuming turns.

Maybe soon...

	26-08-2003 09:30									#122
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That was STYOM, and I'm next (but if Hydey shows up he's welcome to take a spin).

No, the real time killer was the CivII Progressive game over on the Spanish forum. That monster took literally all my free time for 2 weeks to play 50 turns.

Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

1 Advance/turn from trade, 32 new cities in 50 turns
Spent 50k+ in 4 turns of rush building right at the end of the round
(discover Radio)
34 Airports (discover Auto)
11 Airports 28 SHwy (discover MT)
4 Airports 6 SHwy 18 MT
3 Airports 11 SHwy 8 MT (ran out of money)
=52 Airports, 45 SHwy, 26 MT (plus a bunch of other stuff)

I almost got a buzz off that
Now I'm building a 4 module space ship for the round 5 deadline Wednesday (and trying to keep from getting Civved out)

	03-09-2003 19:32									#123
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Looks like the Jedi is almost back -- and almost just in time.

	08-09-2003 15:10									#124
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* Straybow making plans
-Jrabbit, you stole Warrior Code from the Americans… which city?

	09-09-2003 02:51									#125
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Not quite...

Still trying to get the computer delivered to my house.

Sad about Git(2), eh?

We should hold a sxn game in his honour.

	09-09-2003 05:18									#126
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Absolutely! But what theme?

	09-09-2003 08:37									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow Absolutely! But what theme?

My vote is a sailing theme... we are talking about the Admiral here!

In my mind I see lots of water, archipeligo, perfect for Super 'Clads. Give the AI a little head start to keep it interesting.

I only wish he could join us.

	09-09-2003 10:43									#128
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* Straybow Looks around; wonders why he signed up for this silly game
1680 A little tweaking, not much to do. Beads are heading… where? Aztec Intelligance uses the search feature to locate Kyoto (size 11), just outside revealed territory. Straycoco governor is fired, production changes to Caravan.

1690 Lafayette finishes Harbor, starts Aquaduct. Slowville finishes food, starts Lib
1700 Buy CH in Delendapolis, starts Lib. Shake's built by Japs.
1710 Buy Aquaduct in Doldrums, Gov chooses Market. Adv Tribe Mingapulco (size 4!) from hut up near Arctic.

1720 Lazy scientists discover Sanitation, start thinking about Bridges. Straycoco Silver, destined for Kyoto. Rush Hobbitown Pikes, change Gov to Domestic (Harbor). Rush Middleboro Pikes, change to Dom (Market). Caravan heading towards Kyoto discovers trapped Jap Trireme and road, intelligence reveals that the city of Nagasaki has been added to their roster.

1730 Rushed Oldetown Aquaduct. Caravan backs away from Nagasaki 'cos the Japs are always itchin' for a fight; now waits for ship.
1740 Tatooine builds Lib (rushed), Warrenville Aquaduct (rushed), S Pole Pike (rushed), Mingapulco Pike (rushed).

1750 Japs build Leo's. Barbs land by Oldetown, kill 2 Caravans. Change in size bumps food box up to full, city grows before I can rush granary (argh). Now it will take forever to grow. In reprisal, Chariot kills one barb Cruc, second cruc bribed for 82 gold. Cowering Caravan bumps into previously undiscovered city of Izumo, Japs decide we're too poor for tribute. Fortunately, there is no military presence.

1752 Trireme captures barb leader, 150g Denver located. Wine dropped off, should meet ship in the North go to Bombay. Silver heading up to meet ship also. Gems heading to Edo or an American city. Ship picked up Dip to go hunting for AI cities.

There is one city near Jap territory that wasn't there in 1500, but was in 1600 with only Los Angeles and Kansas City new in our intelligence lists. Three others have been there a while. I bet one is the San Francisco that show up in the intelligence report on Japan.

	09-09-2003 10:45									#129
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I'm zoning in front of the boob toob as I do this, and thus I ferget to attach the game file…

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	09-09-2003 10:48									#130
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Black-clicking analysis reveals locations our Embassies have not made clear to us.

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	09-09-2003 11:20									#131
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No delivery...

At least I don't have to pay since they could not send the computer when they agreed.

Will try for tomorrow, but it's out of my hands.

	16-09-2003 01:18									#132
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"Bump"

Ben Kenobi -- are you up to speed? It is time to take Tatooine back to active status...

	16-09-2003 01:46									#133
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Nope.

Lazy gimp still has not delivered the computer.

He has until tonight, and then I go buy one elsewhere.
I'm posting off of public computers at my uni.

	16-09-2003 06:22									#134
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So who is this shmo?

	17-09-2003 01:12									#135
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Well, he has now lost his sale.

Obviously not that determined to sell his computer despite posting advertisements around my university.

:sigh:

* Ben Kenobi now searching classifieds after wasting 2 weeks.

	22-09-2003 06:20									#136
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Jazzaaah!

Playing my turn.

	22-09-2003 08:13									#137
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Lazy days of summer.

Win by conquest?

Start by firing governor in Tatooine, start caravan
Lets start some celebrations.

Set luxuries to 60%.

I really want a marketplace in Doldrums.

AD 1752:

8 celebrations, population at 3 million

AD 1754:

Mingapulco celebrates. Belatedly.
Antlergrad falls out of celebrations.
3.5 million people.

Gold from Slowville - Baltimore, 303 gold.

AD 1756:
BRIDGE BUILDING
Start researching INVENTION

Barb crusader impaled by pikeman.
Shifting celebrations. Oldetown celebrates, Antlergrad celebrates.

Izumo trade rounte, 75$

AD 1758:
4 million population

AD 1760:
AMERICANS develop Democracy, Start SoL.

AD 1762:
4.5 million people.

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	24-09-2003 14:53									#138
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It looks like a Trireme was lost somewhere?
I guess it will be a while before we get caravans up to Indian cities

Rrrrr. What we really need is Nav!

[mode=robust constructive criticism]
Oh, the beads went to (size 4) Izumo (not demanded) instead of waiting for the Trireme to go to (size 11) Kyoto (demanded)
[/mode]

	29-09-2003 18:07									#139
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Hmm. I completed my turns over the weekend and emailed the save to my work address as usual (for zipping and posting). Unfortunately, something is wonky with our corp email this a.m. and the mail has not shown up. So I'll post the log and get the save up as conditions permit...
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The Lazy Year is 1762 and the Rabbitman meanders back into Warrenville to see what's been happening...
It appears that our city-states are sleepwalking through the summer. With only Warrenville and Olde Towne available for management option, Consul Rabbitman takes stock.

Our defenses are poor, our trade progress poor. We are a Republic, but happiness is minimal, as we have triremes (mostly empty) wandering all over the globe. A random click reveals a city at 101, 49. Our treasury has over 500 GP, so we purchase some white goods -- a sewer in Warrenville and Aqueducts in Totooine and Ant's Nest. We're at war with both the americans and Japanese.

1764
--Americans, Japanese become monarchies, vow to rid the planet of our lazy selves.
--WLTConsulD celebrated in Middleboro.
--Antlergrad builds market, starts aqueduct. Lafayette builds aqueduct, starts library.
--We change the faders to 20-30-50 to encourage celebration. Tech rate = 10 turns, income +11 GP.

1766
--Five cities begin celebrations.
--Diplomat finds Dallas, steals Democracy!!! OEDO consulted. Engraved formal invitations are sent for planned revolution in 1770.
--Barb horse killed at Delendapolis, making our lone horse there a vet.
--Camels rushed in Olde Towne, Warrenville.

1768
--Greeks begin building SOL.
--Tatooine stops celebration at size 10.

1770
--Pop = 6.33 MM
--Middleboro sotps celebrating at size 5.
--Slowville complete library, starts aqueduct.
--REVOLUTION.
--Trireme slated to take wine and hides to Indian cities in the north.

1772
--Americans learn Economics, switch from SOL to Adam Smith.
--Democracy!! Current setting yield +28 GP, tech rate of 7 turns.
--Olde Towne builds another food van.
--Straycoco silver delivered to Doldrums for 55 GP and +3 arrows/turn in both cities.
--We adjust to 10-30-60 for more celebrations.

1774
--WLTPD declared in 9 cities.
--Antlergrad builds timely aqueduct, starts library.
--Warrenville builds settlers, starts camel.
--We discover Invention Next choices include Astronomy, Banking, Theology, and University. Navigation (road to RR) sure would be nice, so we opt for Astronomy...

1776
--Americans build Adam Smith's Trading Company.
--Delendapolis builds Library, starts aqueduct.
--Northern hut yields NONE settler, which heads toward Mingapulco to perform needed improvements.
--Food van in Olde Towne.

1778
--Pop now at 7.00 MM ppl.
--S Pole builds settlers, starts legion.
--Warrenville hides van heads south by land, plans trade route with one of our needy southern cities.
--Celebrations stop in Middleboro, Warrenville. Many other celebrations about to stop, so...
--Faders are moved to 20-60-20 and workers adjusted accoordingly. Now at 4 turns/tech, +25 GP.

1780
--Huge boatload of Barb chariots (6 chariots and a king on one caravel??) lands outside Delendapolis.
--Japanese learn how to make Gunpowder.
--Delendapolis pikeman rushed.

1782
--Americans and Japanese swap gunpowder for navigation.
--Tatooine builds granary, starts on sewers.
--President Rabbitman, exhausted, retires.

NOTES FOR NEXT PRESIDENT
--We will learn Astronomy next turn.
--Olde Towne now has 5 camels IIRC. Perhaps an appropriate WoW would give us a boost...
--Warrenville is our repeating hides source. I have no problem with that build plan continuing (another camel in process now).
--If you decide to turn on the Warrenville advisor, please use the Military version, as local defense is pretty weak.
--We might wish to embark on a tech-stealing program, as the neighboring Japanese and Americans each have about 5-6 useful techs, and we're at war with them both anyway.

	29-09-2003 21:44									#140
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The T1 was down, but has returned, thus allowing this email to finally arrive. (It is hoped the Barren Burbs finale is simply in queue and will appear soon...)

1782 Lazy Zipfile attached.

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	22-10-2003 00:06									#141
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My fault for not pounding the table sooner, but I thought for sure that La Fayette would pick up on this in short order...

Then of course with a poly down here & other thoughts there, this slipped off the front page.

Players City

Old n Slow ---------- Slowville
atomant ------------- Ant’s Nest
Straybow ------------ Straycoco
obiwan18 ----------- Tatooine
Bob_Smurf42 ------- Doldrums
JRabbit --------------- Warrenville
La Fayette ----------- LaFayette
Vlad Anterkov ------- Antlergrad

	23-10-2003 15:21									#142
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Sorry, I didn't notice

1784: Hut = 100g; 3 barb chariots destroyed in the north. Astronomy disc., Gunpowder next

1786: Hides to Izumo = 82g; Wine to Izumo = 325g

1790: Gunpowder discovered; Navigation next. Our valiant horseman kills Barb Ellie.

1794: Gems delivered to Denver = 124g

1796: Mighty horseman kills Barb Chariot

1798: Greek fregate offshore Toofaraway says hello and destroys 2 units inside the city + numerous Barb uprising (8 units) close to Tatooine.
Navigation disc., PHYSICS next.

1800: Greel fregate kills remaining Musketeer inside Toofaraway = city empty (but no one onboard the fregate...as usual )

The Americans have just discovered Physics = ironclads in sight, but they have few harbours and we'll be able to build clads quite soon too (too bad the Admiral is not with us any longer )

	23-10-2003 15:24									#143
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Vlad is next
(or perhaps OnS, if Vlad doesn't show up)

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	25-10-2003 23:38									#144
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Got it.

Taking a quick look at the save... why are the excess cities (Hobbittown, Middleboro, and some others) not set to governor?

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	26-10-2003 04:10									#145
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quote: Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov why are the excess cities (Hobbittown, Middleboro, and some others) not set to governor?

Ask Mr Schwartzenegger

(I mean I must have forgotten that part of the rule... = hurry up in order to get onboard last Concorde flight to the Institute)

	26-10-2003 12:08									#146
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quote: why are the excess cities (Hobbittown, Middleboro, and some others) not set to governor?

It isn't summer anymore… rules don't apply

	26-10-2003 17:25									#147
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Summary: Lost two cities (one to barbs, one to a Greek sneak attack). Gained a few techs. HG expires.

1802 (Inherited Turn)-- Set the excess cities to governor.

Hobbittown: Settler-->Marketplace
Lafayette: Caravel-->Crusader
Middleboro: Settler-->Library
Mingapulco: Explorer-->Catapult.
Slowville: Granary-->City Walls
Straycoco: Aqueduct-->Marketplace
Warrenville: Caravan-->Library.
Ant's Nest: Settler-->Catapult.
Delendapolis: Aqueduct-->aqueduct.

Knighs in Oldetown wakened to fight off barbs at Tatooine.

Interturn-- American government overthrown. Japs get Chivalry.

1804 (1)-- Antlergrad Library-->caravan. Tatooine riots. Ant's Nest Catapult-->City Walls (switched from Military Gov to Domestic).

Interturn-- Americans switch to Demo. Greeks discover Railroad.

1806 (2)-- Physics discovered, now researching Chemistry. Half our cities riot, thanks to the HG expiring. Lux upped to 20%. Greeks sneak-attack at Delendapolis, killing the pike.

What? That rule about the excess cities being on governor doesn't apply anymore? arty:

Mingapulco catapult-->explorer
Middleboro library-->settler
Delendapolis aqueduct-->musket

Barb leader captured. I have to starve Mingapulco half to death to keep it from rioting.

Interturn-- Greeks take Toofaraway.

1808 (3)--Nothing much happens.

1810 (4)--Nothing much happens. Caravel bought in Antlergrad. Musket rushed in Delendapolis.

Interturn-->Americans get Metallurgy.

1812 (5)--Doldrums library-->walls. Oldetown builds Wine caravan. Antlergrad caravel-->caravan. Delendapolis musket-->diplomat. Coal to NY for 215 gold.

Interturn: Greeks start Darwin. We sign a peace treaty with Greeks.

1814 (6)--University discovered. Now researching Steam.

Warrenville library-->walls. Hides to St. Louis for 160 gold.

Interturn-->Barb uprising at Mingapulco, kills our Settler there.

1816 (7)--Not much of note.

Interturn-- Another barb landing at Mingapulco. Kills our only unit left there.

1818 (8)--Tatooine and Slowville now building universities. Come across that bug where speaking to an AI causes them to revolt.

Interturn-- Barbs take Mingapulco.

1820 (9)-- Straycoco market-->library

Interturn-- Americans get Conscription.

1822 (10)-- We get Steam Engine! arty: Researching Railroad.

The save:

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	27-10-2003 18:32									#148
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Hmm. I had specifically requested that Warrenville be permitted to comoplete its camel before going to Auto.

Certainly the governor's wishes should be considered before his vacation...

In any case, nice to see this game moving forward.

	27-10-2003 21:10									#149
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I D/L 'd the save & will look into this accordingly -- round four to start.

May need to spend a little time refreshing the easy way we're supposed to sail through this game.

	27-10-2003 21:26									#150
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quote: Originally posted by Old n Slow I’m willing to consider a modification mid game or later for up to three turns of player control solely for the generation of camels & trucks depending upon the trade routes already in place...

We are now in mid game. The Rabbit & I have both placed our build choices of camels, RB on the last turn & made requests for the next mayor to switch over.

Question for the fellowship of mayors:

Do we want the freedom of the acting representative to meddle with our governor's activities for up to three turns per session?

Vote now