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of naughty
Jan 2003
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Originally posted by Albert Speer
Master Zen:
A lot of people exaggerate the indian/black mixture in hispanics... a place like Puerto Rico for example had the native population wiped out at the start of colonization and there never was a significant slave population so Puerto Ricans are basically the same as any Castillian or Catalonyan. the same can be repeated through most latin american countries where the native population is pretty low and blacks were not too known for freely mixing with the Spanish population. Though countries like Bolivia and Peru are mostly native or native/Spanish and Brazil and Trinidad are black or black/european, the typical Latin American is mostly Spanish.
Plenty of people in the US are mixed but they still consider themselves a certain thing... an average black person could easily say they are a quarter Seminole and 1/8th Scotch-Irish but they would still say they are black. A white person would also still say he is white though his grandmother may have been a Cherokee. Why Spanish in Latin America take these percentages and suddenly declare themselves a new race is beyond me
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I disagree.
I will give Mexico as an example. there are 30% pure indians, 60% mestizo (mix of white/indian) and 10% pure white (european descent). However, those 60% mestizo can have anything from 1-99% indian (or european) blood.
Regarding some other "whiter" countries, like Argentina, most of the immigrants are not spanish, but german and italian. Same with Brazil which has a huge percentage of whites.
Why we consider ourselves a new race? Easy, the majority of latinamericans happen to be mestizo. And such a race did not exist pre 1492. And unlike blending in other countries, it has nowhere been on the scale as in latin america. And it just so happens the grand majority of a group of over 500 million people share this trait.
Ask any latinamerican, even if he is a 100% white if he considers himself "spanish" or "european" and you'll get the answer: NO. Cultural identity goes far beyond technical aspects of ethnicity, and latinamericans are a whole new flavor in the racial Baskin Robbins.
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Master Zen
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of naughty
Jan 2003
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Originally posted by Kramerman
From what Ive read on the Me-262 (which is quite limited, mind you), it seems the only way it was superiuor to allied fighters was in its speed. Its maneuverabilty appearently wasnt great, and due to its large cannons, it's ammo capacity was quite limited. The plane definately had potential in that it was a stepping stone, but in and of itself, it was no super plane of the time. Regardless, its introduction was so late it was ineffectual to teh war, and Hitler's misuse of them wasnt helpful either. |
Well most Allied pilots considered it they hardest plane to down, so I guess there was a reason for that. Allied strategy was also to catch it on the ground before or shortly after takeoff which proves it was more than a match for them at altitude. But as you say, Hitler's misuse of them made them far less potent that they could have if they had been introduced one year before...
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Ikarus
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Texas
Sep 2002
time: 23:28
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Oh my God, Oh my God, Oh my God!
WWII fighters. It's what I live for. I hate the question though. There are so many beautiful fighters. Although the D.520 is my favorite WWII fighter the Spitfire is by far the most beautiful, especially the clipped wing variants. It's sleek and powerful design is awesome.
I also noticed that the poll had primary fighters from each country. Left out were Italy's Macchi M.202 Folgore, another great looking plane. But lets not forget Czechoslovakia's Avia B.534, Poland's PZL P-24, the Netherland's Fokker D.XXI, Romania's I.A.R. 80, Yugoslavia's Rogozarski IK-3 (IK stands for Ikarus ) and Australia's CAC Boomerang. I'm sure some people would find any one of these planes attractive.
I'm especially a fan of the "Forgotten Air Force" of France. They had great fighters and great aces, like Pierre Legloan, who shot down five aircraft in one sortee, the first pilot of WWII to do so. He did this in the Dewoitine D.520. But along with the 520, French pilots flew the Morane-Saulnier MS.406(the most numerous French fighter), the all-wooden construction Arsenal VG-33, the well-armed Bloch MB-152 along with the American Curtiss Hawk 75 and the outdated Dewoitine D.510.
If I had to rank my five favorite aircraft they'd be...
1) Dewoitine D.520
2) Supermarine Spitfire Mk.1 (Battle of Britain)
3) Rogozarski IK-3
4) Lavochkin LaGG-3
5) Messerschmitt Bf.109G
In the beauty contest these are my ratings:
- Bf.109 
- Zero 
- Spitfire
- P-51
- Yak-9:
- Dewoitine 520:
Being an American, it is odd that I dislike American WWII fighters. I especially dislike the P-51 Mustang. My favorite American fighters are the P-38J Lightning and the P-40s. My favorite bomber happens to be the B-25, however, especially after seeing "Pearl Harbor" and reading .Catch-22 .
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