02-06-2003 18:45									#31
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger Well the French seem to think the EU's job is to oppose the US, its only a short walk to a more aggresive position

Hmmm, let's see. Europe is a collection of small states. Kind of like the US back in the day. Unless you like being under the boot of the US, and allowing King George W. to play divide and conquer, I suggest you guys form something more like a superstate. The resulting larger economy might even be able to counter King George's steel tariffs and continue to push for labeling of GM foods. Gee, you might want to be able to stand up to US policies you disagree with.

Frankly, theStinger, if you want to be the US's prison ***** - that's fine with me. But remember, at the founding of the US, plenty of people didn't want to cede power from state to federal government. History buried them - and will probably bury you as well.

	02-06-2003 18:49									#32
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well said.

	02-06-2003 18:50									#33
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Ooo now now.

You must be a european enthusiast as all the problems in the world can be laid at the door of the US, if only we can come together we can overcome the mighty evil empire.

	02-06-2003 18:51									#34
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I forgot to add that there was no mention of democracy in your little rant

	02-06-2003 18:57									#35
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The EU will also democratize your country and laws.

It begins with your non existant labour laws for the protection of theworkers.

	02-06-2003 18:58									#36
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Wrong

	02-06-2003 18:58									#37
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger But we don't need to be kept in check we don't allow crooks to rule us or if they do get in they don't last long. Berlusconi already has far to much say in the affairs of my country I don't want him having any more.

Sure, it would be much better if we left each other alone. Like, say, we left hitler alone .

	02-06-2003 18:59									#38
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Next inline will be your pathetic terrorist laws.

	02-06-2003 19:00									#39
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Uk has the lowest unemployemnt in Europe of the larger countries, does that say something

	02-06-2003 19:01									#40
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The UK has the largest amount ofpeople under poverty in any llarge country. I'm sure that says something.

	02-06-2003 19:02									#41
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 The UK has the largest amount ofpeople under poverty in any llarge country. I'm sure that says something.

Bollocks.

	02-06-2003 19:04									#42
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Indeed, bollocks to your sad state of affairs. EU will save you though.

	02-06-2003 19:07									#43
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Zorba: I'm not exactly sure you're helping your case with Stinger.

	02-06-2003 19:08									#44
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Their fear of them becoming like the US permits me to have fun with him, don't you know? You're the biggest incentive for further EU integration.

	02-06-2003 19:09									#45
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The EU can save corrupt little basket case countries by giving them large amounts of money to waste on olive oil production. However the big grown up countries have to pay for this and they are starting to get annoyed about it. So we'll stop giving you money and then you won't have any time to laughably instruct others on how to run their affairs, as you will be too busystopping the commies or the colonels being in power

	02-06-2003 19:10									#46
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EU supporters never help their case as they think the organistion is immune to criticism

	02-06-2003 19:11									#47
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Pffftt....

You won't get any breaks for reminescing your own crimes.

	02-06-2003 19:13									#48
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Olive oil is the way to go : increases lifespan and decreases healthcare expenses.

	02-06-2003 19:13									#49
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger EU supporters never help their case as they think the organistion is immune to criticism

I'm pretty sure the integration will go on with or without your concent so conveincing you is nothigh in anyone's agenda. Just having a little fun with your typical xenophobic fixations and the sad state of Britain.

	02-06-2003 19:15									#50
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The European Union:

It's a great way to tear down the old nation-states

	02-06-2003 19:16									#51
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger EU supporters never help their case as they think the organistion is immune to criticism

The draft of constitution shows quite clearly that some EU supporters are conscious that changes have to be made.

	02-06-2003 19:16									#52
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Xenophobia is the irrationail fear/dislike of foreigners. I neither fear or dislike foreigners as a people, I am therefore not xenophobic.

I dislike certain people and who happen to be foreign, but I also dislike certain people who are British.

Try again.

	02-06-2003 19:16									#53
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quote: Originally posted by August Borms It's a great way to tear down the old nation-states

And replace them with another one?

	02-06-2003 19:17									#54
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quote: continue to push for labeling of GM foods

That is not necessary, and merely a form of protectionism.

	02-06-2003 19:18									#55
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WTF is up with being afraid to eat GM foods, anyway?

	02-06-2003 19:18									#56
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Your press is themost xenophobic in Europe. You're plainly xenophobic so I don't see why I should try again. relics are ment to be taken apart and have their country saved with or without their consent.

	02-06-2003 19:19									#57
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc And replace them with another one?

Bingo, they want a country that can stand up to the nasty US

	02-06-2003 19:20									#58
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A confederal organization can hardly be considered as equivalent to a nation-state.

	02-06-2003 19:20									#59
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quote: relics are ment to be taken apart

Great, we'll do that with our marbles then!

	02-06-2003 19:21									#60
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It's always funny that you are fighting a lost case. It is only a matter oftime until Britain falls in line. Their stuck with the past is what keeps them behind. Eventually you'll join the new Europe.