02-06-2003 19:21									#61
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Paiktis you are the most Xenophobic poster on this forum

	02-06-2003 19:21									#62
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT A confederal organization can hardly be considered as equivalent to a notion-state.

It can also hardly be considered comparable to tearing them down.

	02-06-2003 19:23									#63
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I think the US, represented by DD, has just missed a great opportunity to be quiet.

	02-06-2003 19:26									#64
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc It can also hardly be considered comparable to tearing them down.

What is a nation-state which does not control sovereignly its economy and its currency ?

	02-06-2003 19:28									#65
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UI;m not xenophobic, I'm just amused by your stubborness to admit that you have been saved from Germany's boot again. This time by the EU.

	02-06-2003 19:28									#66
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT What is a nation-state which does not control sovereignly

I've seen no real moves toward a common foreign/security policy that haven't been damaged by the current French regime.

	02-06-2003 19:31									#67
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The Brit protectorate pf the US has damaged it. but I'm sure it will quickly recover. Maybe faster.

	02-06-2003 19:31									#68
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 UI;m not xenophobic, I'm just amused by your stubborness to admit that you have been saved from Germany's boot again. This time by the EU.

That is a joke right.

	02-06-2003 19:32									#69
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Well yes, the joke is on you.

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I think it is very ungrateful of you not to say a whole hearted thank you to your savior this time. Very bad manners.

	02-06-2003 19:34									#71
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Well at least we fought them rather than collobarating like they were long lost brothers

	02-06-2003 19:36									#72
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Poland.

Now you can say thanks to the EU for saving you from them a 2nd time. You just never were good enough.

	02-06-2003 19:37									#73
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I've seen no real moves toward a common foreign/security policy that haven't been damaged by the current French regime.

Again, I may be wrong, but I have no european plans in mind which have been damaged by the current French regime regarding common foreign policy and security/defense. I am rather under the impression that the current regime is quite eager to see these ideas advancing (draft constitution, talks with UK on defense).

	02-06-2003 19:37									#74
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What are you talking about.

	02-06-2003 19:38									#75
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT Again, I may be wrong, but I have no european plans in mind which have been damaged by the current French regime regarding common foreign policy and security/defense. I am rather under the impression that the current regime is quite eager to see these ideas advancing (draft constitution, talks with UK on defense).

I agree with clos colloboration on defence its a good idea, I just don't want to see it formalised within the EU

	02-06-2003 19:39									#76
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Does the EU constitution say anything about employment rights for trolls?

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So much for the brit educational system.

	02-06-2003 19:39									#78
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Has Paiktis finally lost his last marble?

	02-06-2003 19:42									#79
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Actually the Constitution will be a great thing for the UK where you have virtually no protection for workers.

Everything that isn't explicitely prohobited by brit "law" can be done by employers. Which explains why you have the highest poverty % of all euro large countries.
But you will be saved, the EU constitution will oversee your pathetic "labour laws".

	02-06-2003 19:45									#80
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When you learn about common law you will find that last statement is so wrong you will probaly have to resort to accusing me of being Gay

	02-06-2003 19:45									#81
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quote: Actually the Constitution will be a great thing for the UK where you have virtually no protection for workers. But you will be saved, the EU constitution will oversee your pathetic "labour laws".

Good, I'm looking forward to a labour market like Germany's.

Let's reward the lazy.

	02-06-2003 19:46									#82
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Actually the Constitution will be a great thing for the UK where you have virtually no protection for workers. Everything that isn't explicitely prohobited by brit "law" can be done by employers. Which explains why you have the highest poverty % of all euro large countries. But you will be saved, the EU constitution will oversee your pathetic "labour laws".

No, our labour laws are just more geared towards part-time and temporary work, whereas the norm in other areas of Europe is for labour laws to be based more around the principle that people work for the same company all their lives. If anything, ours are somewhat more flexible.

	02-06-2003 19:46									#83
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Ah ha, this is hilarious - the UK's "poverty line" is actually higher than Greek average income

	02-06-2003 19:48									#84
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You'll note that he said "large countries", in order to get around that one.

	02-06-2003 19:51									#85
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quote: Originally posted by TheStinger I agree with clos colloboration on defence its a good idea, I just don't want to see it formalised within the EU

Defence is a perfect example of the flexibility of the EU. This confederation includes already neutral countries that I do not expect they intend to change. But this fact does not preclude other countries to build within the Confederation a sub-organization for defence, in the same way that the common currency does not cover all members of the EU.

This flexibility is why the building of Europe is a totally new thing, difficult, complex, but potentially great and rewarding.

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I used large countries because I wnated to compare like with like, comparing the UK with luxembourg and Malta doesn't seem to make much sense.

	02-06-2003 19:53									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Boddington's Ah ha, this is hilarious - the UK's "poverty line" is actually higher than Greek average income

Of course not.


Flexibility in laws or not, youstill have the highest % of poor peoplein all large EU economies. So much for the benefits of these laws then.

	02-06-2003 19:54									#88
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Greek convergence with EU average currently stands at around 70%.

	02-06-2003 19:55									#89
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So why make our number of poor even higher by over-regulating our labour market?

	02-06-2003 19:56									#90
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Your "flexible" laws aresult in your highest % of poverty.