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jolair is offline jolair
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Respuesta de Arrian (Cake or Death) a la petición de Ingenieria



mmmmmmm....no entiendo bien lo de "Can I get back to you on that one?" ¿puedo devolverte esta? ¿alguien me puede dar la traducción exacta?


Mis conocimientos de inglés son inferiores a los tuyos pero por el contexto creo que quiere que nosotros fijemos el precio de Ingeniería. No quiere decirnos en cuanto la valora, prefiere saber cuanto estamos dispuestos a pagar.
Por supuesto, esto no es más que mi interpretación, y puedo estar equivocado.

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Si, creo que tienes razón
bueno, a ver si llega alguna oferta más, si no los de Sunshine y CoD tienen buena pinta. En el futuro ¿creeis posible abandonar toda investigación y comprar tech a un par de proveedores? ¿o es mejor investigar?

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Si, creo que tienes razón
bueno, a ver si llega alguna oferta más, si no los de Sunshine y CoD tienen buena pinta. En el futuro ¿creeis posible abandonar toda investigación y comprar tech a un par de proveedores? ¿o es mejor investigar?


En mi opinión es mejor investigar. Creo que vale la pena el esfuerzo y contar con "los últimos avances de la ciencia".

Así no dependemos de los demás y no financiamos sus economías.

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En el futuro ¿creeis posible abandonar toda investigación y comprar tech a un par de proveedores? ¿o es mejor investigar?


pues yo creo que habria que echar cuentas.... ver el oro que somos capaces de generar en los turnos que nos llevaria una tech concreta y determinar si es mejor para nosotros.. eso siempre que sean techs "obsoletas". En cuanto nos pongamos al dia tecnologicamente tambien hay que poner en la ecuacion la posibilidad de vender una tech "nueva" recien obtenida por nosotros a varias civs.

Esta claro que la gente tiende a mal-vender las techs en situaciones asi porque hay mucho posibles vendedores y todos prefieren sacar "algo", aunque no sea mucho, a que ese algo lo saque el contrario.. y tenemos que aprovecharnos de eso.

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Si, yo compraria a menos que tengamos la seguridad de que investigando algo podramos intercambiarla

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Casi. Arrian no tiene ninguna idea en cuanto sera un buen precio, y el frase 'Can I get back to you on that one?' significa que el voy a responder mas tarde, quizas cuando el ha discutido con su equipo sobre precio.

Aunque ya estoy muy ocupado con todos los preocupaciones de mi vida real, espero ayudar con traducciones y mensajes cuando puedo.

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Efectivamente, esto es lo que me ha enviado Arrian:
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Just so you know, we haven't forgotten about this. We still have several turns to go before we discover Engineering, and we haven't yet agreed on a price.

I hope to get back to you soon with a firm offer.

-Arrian

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Aug 2001
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güeno, con la perspectiva que da el tiempo, el mensaje de los chinos es lo más importante que ha sucedido y no he comprendido cuál es nuestra postura (estarán esperando contestación...) ¿no?

no me habré dejado alguna thread o post por leer ¿verdad?

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A veces la mejor respuesta es la que no existe El NAP está firmado, y una alianza con ellos solo es beneficiosa....para ellos.
En cualquier caso si que les he escrito yo el último, pidiendoles precio por sus tech

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Estoy en AIM charlando con UnOrthOdOx de Tabemono ahora mismo. El quiere saber si queremos Feudalismo, y cuanto oro estamos preparado a pagar. Tambien, su equipo tiene interes en la idea de una alianza.

Podemos discutir estos y responder? UnO es un amigo mio por otros juegos democraticos en Apolyton, y me parece que su equipo es un poco preocupado con movimientos cerca de su bordel y sospechan que estamos preparando para los atacar.

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graciasssss, era difícil ponerse al día adecuadamente

¿y feudalismo la tienen otros? ¿o sólo ellos?

quizás están pensando que queremos el NAP para rearmarnos y atacarles después, por eso no queremos alianza

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No tenemos intención alguna de atacarles, tenemos un NAP en vigor. Por feudalismo estariamos interesados si nos dieran un precio muy muy bajo. En cuanto a la alianza, no podemos atacar a MAST, tenemos un NAP en vigor con ellos y no hay mucho interesante que sacar de allí. Y atacar a Sunshine solo les beneficia a ellos. A menos que planeen una cabeza de puente en el otro continente.... (una ciudad con lujos para cada uno, o algo así)

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Quizas puedo responder por diciendo que queremos mantener el NAP y assurar Tabemono que no tenemos ningun intencion de niguna accion contra ellos, solo cooperacion con su equipo. Podria preguntar por que EXACTAMENTE ellos quieren una alianza. Feudalismo es una tema que primero necesitamos investigar mas - cuales otras civilisaciones lo tienen, por ejemplo. Diria que nuestro situacion de relaciones sexteriores es un poco confuso al momento y que voy a investigar mas cuando tengo el tiempo. A mi no se exactamente cuantos otros tienen Feudalismo.

Bastante bien?

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Creo que de momento Tabemono es la única que nos ha ofrecido feudalismo, pero mejor esperar más ofertas durante más tiempo, porque en breve posiblemente nos dejemos el dinero en comprar a Sunshine monotheism & engineering

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Mandado a ZargonX, Kloreep, GodKing y UnOrthOdOx de Tabemono (no estoy seguro cuales de ellos son activos):

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Hello,

it's been a while. I am not sure exactly who to send this to right now, so I am sending to those who I think may be active there (and UnO, who I know is to some degree).

Communications have been a little sporadic between our teams recently, in large part due to the lack of many of my fellow Lovers' feeling confident enough in their English to convey and translate messages for the team. The first reason for this PM is to inform you that I am hoping to smooth things over by acting as Ambassador of sorts - my Spanish is usually good enough for this task.

I apologise for any strange signals that may have been received recently, and the second intent of this PM is to clear those up.

The Lovers are keen to maintain our NAP and friendly cooperation. There is no intention to attack our well-eating friends, and we hope we can meet soon for more diplomatic exchanges - you bring the wine, we'll bring the women! If there are any concerns about possible violations of territorial rights please let us know and we will remove our warriors, who admittedly sometimes get so love-crazed they believe they can sense womenfolk from many leagues away. In many cases it may be these hormone-blinded ambassadors for the Latins who are accidentally treading Tabemono vineyards on their Quixote-like missions for non-existent ladies in the night.

I have been informed that you have requested an alliance with us. Although we are certainly not averse to such an arrangement, we are a little curious as to what the Tabemono intends to achieve with this. If you can let us know exactly what sort of cooperation would be involved in this alliance, I am sure I will be able to encourage my lust-driven Government to look upon this favourably. After all it WOULD mean more joint banquets (they quite like those...)!

The last issue you have presented to us before is on buying Feudalism from you. The paperwork for this sadly got caught between the buttocks of the favourite concubine of the Gran Miembro - our leader - and it was only rediscovered recently. Please do not ask me how it got there , but rest assured we are now tabling this motion, and I hope to bring you more information over the next turn or two.

Until we converse again, eat well and be merry!

WIA - Foreign Affairs Consultant/Translator for the Latin Lovers.

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genial!! vendra de maravillas tener un embajador sajon...

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Ya no hay respuesta.

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MrWIA, te cedo gustoso el cargo de Huevote de Relaciones Sexteriores
¿Hace falta topear las thread de embajadas o con el bumpeo es suficiente?

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Informe de Exteriores

Creo que el hueco en la investigación es Invention. MAST y Tabemono estan con Chivalry, Sunshine con Theology. Habría que ver si tenemos varios equipos interesados en que la investiguemos para cambiarla. Pero antes necesitamos comprar Engineering (a Sunshine, junto con Monoteismo o sola) y Feudalism (de momento a Tabemono, a ver que dicen los del otro continente).

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Mandado a Tabemono:

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Hail to Tabemono from the fiesty Roman Latino Corazón!

I bring greetings and offerings from the sunny shores of our chiquita-populated lands. I always enjoy my short visits to your realms, for the healthy culinary fortification I always enjoy here aids my stamina greatly when I return home, something for which other Romans are at times deeply envious.

For an hors d'oeuvre I have a proposal to set forth for discussion at your dining tables. Our lands are close, and this allows us to consider setting up a trade route, either via sea or land through a road network. This would enable closer ties between our two peoples, and it may be possible to exchange luxury items, if you have surplus. We have Dyes for possible trade, and we notice you have Incense and Hides, although our accountants are befuddled as to whether you have enough to trade as well as keeping your dining halls smelling so wonderfully, and so well insulated. Secondly, further to the possibility of us buying Feudalism off of you, if you have no luxuries spare we could possibly try to negotiate a trade for Feudalism involving our surplus Dyes. Food for thought.

I have two further items on the menu for today. Some of the more nervous Latin Ministers have noticed with concern that a Tabemono Swordman is near the Latin city of Montserrat. Of course I realise that this is due to just a slight misunderstanding over the NAP, but all the same they have pressured me to officially ask that you please make plans to retire your sturdy troops to their barracks, thus easing the worries of my stressed superiors. I thank you in advance. Also there is a Tabemono Galley stuck on the coast between the spheres of several Latin cities, cut off from the lush shores of home. If it be of interest to you to return these sailors (they seem to be wasting away when viewed from afar!), we are certainly willing to discuss the possibility of them traversing our coast to reach their homelands. We do not want your sailors starving on our beaches!

Thus it is with some regret I must leave you, friends, and return through the jungle to the sun-soaked babelands of my home. I look forward to my return to visit you.

* MrWhereItsAt places hand on chest and bows, then departs.

MrWhereItsAt
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Latin Lovers Team.

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Informe de Exteriores

Creo que el hueco en la investigación es Invention. MAST y Tabemono estan con Chivalry, Sunshine con Theology. Habría que ver si tenemos varios equipos interesados en que la investiguemos para cambiarla. Pero antes necesitamos comprar Engineering (a Sunshine, junto con Monoteismo o sola) y Feudalism (de momento a Tabemono, a ver que dicen los del otro continente).


A mi me parece que empezar la investigación de Invención será lo mejor. Seguro que podemos descubrirlo antes de los otros equipos, no? Este será posible si Sunshine nos dan Engineering y Monotheism, que me semble probable. Si Togas recomienda algo, raro que hay discordancias.

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El vinculo a mi charla con Tabemono esta aquí.

En noticias menos negativos que los problemas que Tabemono tiene en respecto a nuestros comunicaciones,


  • tienen un lujo disponible. Si conectamos un de nuestros lujos excedentes y crée una ruta semble que podemos acordar en un cambio.

  • van a mover su galera por nuestra costa y regresan a su territorio propio

  • quízas probaríamos acordar con un cambio por Invención. No tenemos mucho oro al momento, pero sería posible dar ellos 'gold per turn'?

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Necesitamos Feudalismo! Sunshine no nos lo puede dar, hay que preguntar a los demás. Ya he pregundado a Cort Haus de CoD por ella en el email de turno

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En este caso, hay algo que podemos cambiar con Tabemono por Feudalismo?

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me temo que por ahora solo tenemos oro

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Sería bastante, pienso, pero le dimos casi todo nuestro oro a Sunshine por Eng y Mono, no?

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bueno . todo todo no le dimos
nos queda como 150 o asi no?

De todas formas imagino que admitiran que les paguemos a plazos ( x de oro por turno )

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en el email del turno mandé una petición de precio a CoD:

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Greetings! we still want to purchase Feudalism. If you want/could, our treasury is 232gold and payment per turn is possible also. Just say a (interesting) number :-)


Ahora mando similares a Monty y MAST (Sunshine no puede darla) Los Tabemono se los dejo a WiA aunque yo los dejaría como última opción

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