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"If a single British bomb falls on Berlin, you can call me Meier" (Herman Goering).
"If you are going to tell a lie, tell a big lie" (Josef Goebbels)
"Rivers of blood rant rave looney" That right wing idiot who most people have forgotten about.
"I don't see why you would need a hard drive bigger than 40 Mb" Me, back in the days when 40Mb was a big hard drive.
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"I am not a crook!"
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"I did not have sex with that woman."
"Read my lips. No new taxes."
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Because what he said translated to "I am a jelly doughnut." I thought everyone had heard of that one.
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Boris Godunov
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Aug 2001 time: 00:29
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quote: Originally posted by gunkulator
Because what he said translated to "I am a jelly doughnut." I thought everyone had heard of that one. |
Ah, the "jelly doughnut" myth. And here I thought everyone knew that was an urban legend. 
What Kennedy said was precisely correct for what he wanted to say, you can ask a native German speaker. You'll note that nobody in the crowd laughed when he made this supposed "gaffe"--they cheered loudly.
On they contrary, had he said "Ich bin Berliner," he would have confused the crowd. The context of this statement was that the world would be "one with Berlin," which is what he said when he said "Ich bin ein Berliner." Had he said the other, he would have been saying literally that he resided in Berlin, which was not true.
That there is a pastry called "Einberliner" [sic?] is irrelevant. If someone said to you, "I am Danish," would you think he were a pastry? Should we assume a resident of Frankfurt who says, in English, "I am a Frankfurter" is a hotdog? "I am a New Yorker"--am I a magazine?
Kennedy was not dumb and worked diligently with a native German linguist to say precisely what he wanted to say.

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General Ludd
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Aug 2001 time: 05:29
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Ah, the "jelly doughnut" myth. And here I thought everyone knew that was an urban legend. 
What Kennedy said was precisely correct for what he wanted to say, you can ask a native German speaker. You'll note that nobody in the crowd laughed when he made this supposed "gaffe"--they cheered loudly.
On they contrary, had he said "Ich bin Berliner," he would have confused the crowd. The context of this statement was that the world would be "one with Berlin," which is what he said when he said "Ich bin ein Berliner." Had he said the other, he would have been saying literally that he resided in Berlin, which was not true.
That there is a pastry called "Einberliner" [sic?] is irrelevant. If someone said to you, "I am Danish," would you think he were a pastry? Should we assume a resident of Frankfurt who says, in English, "I am a Frankfurter" is a hotdog? "I am a New Yorker"--am I a magazine?
Kennedy was not dumb and worked diligently with a native German linguist to say precisely what he wanted to say.
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Yes, but isn't it so much better to think that he said "I am a jelly doughnut"? Why can we not just pretend.
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Ecthy
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Zhonghuà Rénmín Gònghéguó
Mar 2000 time: 06:29
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