10-07-2003 07:35									#121
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How are we going to work out the awards? Maybe after players....

	10-07-2003 14:39									#122
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quote: Originally posted by sabrewolf what about the "has no life" award: biggest milking? "city flipper" award: wins most cities by culture flip (coracle's favourite) "viagra" award: super potent ultra fast breeding (growth / REXing) and something for best non-standard strategy (not warmongering or techwhoring) ...

Don't forget the 'Swiss' award for a Perfect Peacenik game

BTW, all awards should be given for each level of play. I believe many newbies will be interesting in playing if they have chances to win an award at their present level of playing.

	10-07-2003 14:44									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus IMHO, the preview of Conquests at Gamespot is all the more reason for us to get our house in order.

Agreed. The "New AU" needs to be fully up and running by the time Conquests comes out. By the look of things the game will change a huge amount (even changes to existing Civs traits and UU) and these types of learning and discovery games will be great fun.

That gives us 3 or 4 months to get this thing done (depending on when exactly in the autumn the expansion is released).

	10-07-2003 14:48									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master How are we going to work out the awards? Maybe after players....

Some awards would be 'objective', as fastest diplomatic win on Regent etc.
Others would be more 'subjective', as best AAR/DAR.
For these, we could create a poll and vote.

In any case, players should be able to 'opt-out' from the award system on a play-by-play basis.

	11-07-2003 00:59									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master ThesEus. But it would be optional. Because newer players would not want to show there results.

If a newer player doesn't want to show his results, why would he post an AAR at all...? I think it's a great idea Theseus and that way, we would be able to see better what is going on in each other's game...

--Kon--

	11-07-2003 01:30									#126
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quote: AU presence - One of the things that CFC did was to give the GOTM more of its own presence... well, maybe that's the wrong way to say it, rather it's that cracker put a HUGE effort into it, and then turned around and got CFC admin to highlight the results. I think that we need to do the same thing; I mean, c’mon, how easy is it for a newcomer to even find AU?? The problem is, this will require an effort similar to cracker’s on someone's part, and due to RL it ain't gonna be me. Volunteers?

forgive my ignorance, but just what excatly is AU? is it 'poly's 'Game of the month'

	11-07-2003 01:49									#127
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DarkCloud, check here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=83557

	11-07-2003 01:58									#128
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oh yeah. thanks. I remember somethng like that being set up a few months ago- I mustt have just forgotten.

thanks!

	11-07-2003 04:16									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus You never know... there are players like Kon, and others, who have embraced the opportunity to have the more experienced help out. But you are right, whatever we do needs to maintain a sensitivity to the newer players. I just thought that it would be a fun way to use the DARs. (And, for instance, I'd really like to see such a comparison for the phases of AU402)

Thanks Theseus... I have to say that Apolyton (and especially AU!) has given a lot to me since the beginning. I seriously think that it's my time to give something back in return. I'll have a nice thread up in the startegy forum by the start of next week...

If someone doesn't want to post an AAR, have them to PM me, I'll do my best to convince them it's just great!

--Kon--

	11-07-2003 08:41									#130
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I'm currently trying to compile all the information from this thread and the dribs and drabs in the DG threads I posted. I should have them together by the weekend and start some polls to get things moving.

That is barring RL issues of course...my wife and I got a call at work today that the nice idiot in the apartment above ours left his water running and flooded our kitchen and dining room. Luckily the only thing we'll probably be losing is our brand new table and a few books. It could have been so much worse.

	11-07-2003 09:30									#131
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That's great Rhothaerill! So does the idiot have to pay for it?

	11-07-2003 09:54									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master That's great Rhothaerill! So does the idiot have to pay for it?

Don't want to threadjack too much, but...we don't know yet if he's going to pay us for our table. We haven't actually talked to the guy yet. According to our complex he doesn't have renter's insurance so he might be hard pressed just to pay them back for the damages he caused to three different apartments.

Apparently he was filling a bowl to clean rocks in his fish tank and then got a call to drive a friend to the airport...and left the water running.

	11-07-2003 09:56									#133
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And now back to our regularly scheduled thread.

Just to give you guys an idea of what I'm going to do I'm planning on posting several polls. Some will be about the DG's and cover pages, some about the AU and where to take it from here (with many of the ideas from this thread as part of the polls), and one about whether we have enough ideas and support for this to take our ideas to Mark and Dan and see what they think. I plan on posting these in the general forum, but I also want to post reminders of the polls in the DG's and strat forum for those who don't get over to general that much.

	12-07-2003 02:52									#134
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Ahem.

In all the frenzy about C3C, I'd like to bump this.

	12-07-2003 04:53									#135
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I sincirely think that AU should have it's seperate web page, something like http://www.au.apolyton.net or the like. This does not kick AU out of the strategy forum, but it will sure bring coherence and visibility. With a nice layout and some dedicated people, I'm sure we could do something very good...

--Kon--

	12-07-2003 04:59									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Konquest02 I sincirely think that AU should have it's seperate web page, something like http://www.au.apolyton.net or the like. This does not kick AU out of the strategy forum, but it will sure bring coherence and visibility. With a nice layout and some dedicated people, I'm sure we could do something very good...

That'll be one of my polls. Look for them all this weekend.

	12-07-2003 05:05									#137
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Theseus,

You did a nice job summarizing all the suggestions, and there are a few that have been taken care of: it looks like the next AU course will be in the news!!! (crosses fingers). So how bout making a multiple select poll with the other suggestions and see what Civ III players think?

And I certainly hope a separate web page like Kon just resuggested and others have suggested get's made. I would volunteer, but unfortunately I don't have the time to make a big committment to AU and be able to do things in a timely manner (read: wife hates civ).

And just think, if the AU page get's made, we can get rid of the AU History 101 thread. It serves a great purpose now, but having our own page would create more room for introductions, course descriptions, etc. that would be too cumbersome to fit with the thread format. I considered adding descriptions of each scenario, but just having the links themselves takes up so much room, and I'm of the belief of the shorter the better in terms of having people actually read one's post.

bump

	12-07-2003 05:08									#138
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud forgive my ignorance, but just what excatly is AU? is it 'poly's 'Game of the month'

Talk about no "presence!" Even our very own Apolyton Civ 3 Stories Editor doesn't know what AU is.

Let's get some advertising.

	12-07-2003 05:21									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Konquest02 I sincirely think that AU should have it's seperate web page, something like http://www.au.apolyton.net or the like. This does not kick AU out of the strategy forum, but it will sure bring coherence and visibility. With a nice layout and some dedicated people, I'm sure we could do something very good... --Kon--

hi ,

, good idea , but www.apolyton.net/au/ might be loads better , .....

Dan

have a nice day

	12-07-2003 23:58									#140
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Friendly bump before the polls start.

	13-07-2003 01:17									#141
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Thanks for doing the polls, Rhoth!!

	13-07-2003 01:21									#142
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Welcome.

Hopefully it will polarize the discussion into a clear heading for the Civ3 at 'Poly future. And generate even more ideas.

	13-07-2003 01:28									#143
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Just got an interesting idea:

As part of the initiative to create games for newer players, how about a "beat the veteran" type of challenge. As the name implies, we would pick a Civ3/AU veteran (say, alexman or Theseus) who is to play the same game as all the "novices". The "novices" would then try and outperform the "veteran" (I'm using quotes because the names could use some improvement). The "veteran" would have the responsibility of providing detailed DARs of his or her entire game. This would put some competition in AU, but the good sort of competitiveness that is fun and encourages learning. Sort of like when NBA players play games against high school students. It's pretty cool to see the name players get faked out once in a while in basketball, and with AU there is an even greater possibilty that the "novice" could beat the "veteran". The only problem that is see is that we would need to identify the novices, as we would not want, say, Catt competing against nbarclay in this exercise, as they are more or less at an equal skill level (I think!).

Sound fun?


Dominae

	13-07-2003 01:33									#144
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Good idea!! How about we sorta combine with my idea of standard AU Intro course at different difficulty levels?

	13-07-2003 01:37									#145
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Sounds good to me.


Dominae

	13-07-2003 02:26									#146
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Your avatar still freaks me out, btw.

	13-07-2003 03:11									#147
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That's a great idea Dominae!

	13-07-2003 04:59									#148
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 I don't know what Vox is, but I think your are correct.

And that was your first mistake. Wait until we show up on your shores.

Theseus - right on!

Let me know if I can help in anyway.

	13-07-2003 06:03									#149
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quote: Originally posted by panag , good idea , but www.apolyton.net/au/ might be loads better , .....

yeah, whatever fits better... I may help (i.e. not in charge...) with the web page, but I'm a web designing newbie (i.e. I can fiddle around in Adobe GoLive and Photoshop, but I'm unbale to write ANY code...) If you want to see a spectrum of my web designing skills, go to
my (unfinished) homepage .

Dominae, your "challenge the expert" idea is just great. I think that 1 vs. 1 matchups are not the key though. I think 1 player should play a detailed game and all the novices would be able to take a shot at it.

--Kon--

	13-07-2003 06:03									#150
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Thanks Rhothaerill for getting the polls going.