21-07-2003 07:11									#271
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quote: I don't. Still, I think it wasn't one of the greatest pages in American history.

agreed.

	21-07-2003 07:13									#272
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara quote: Originally posted by Kramerman I dont know what they taught you in school, serb, but most Americans TRY to expsoe the goverment whenever they can. quote: Because of this, and the fact there is no incentive for the state depratment to lie, they simplely tell the facts. That was good.

you too think the american government skews facts and statics as much as the Soviet Union did?

(mind you, i didnt mean american departments never skew the facts)

	21-07-2003 07:14									#273
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I thought that he was refering to British Actions during the Boer War. However, that maybe presuming to much of Serb.

Or possibly Andersonville.

http://www.cr.nps.gov/seac/andecon.htm

Which war has greater cultural currency?

Any of the Boer Wars or the Second World War?

And which comparison would have the desired effect upon an American audience given the comparison with an American regime of detention?

Springfontein or Belsen?

I think we can both surmise which era's concentration camps Serb was referring to, so cease trolling.

	21-07-2003 07:16									#274
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom I think we can both surmise which era's concentration camps Serb was referring to, so cease trolling.

Well yes. I realize that Serb is stupid but I was trying to give him a little credit for once.

	21-07-2003 07:23									#275
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I really miss the good ol' USSR. They were the only ones who made us Americans look like angels in comparison.

And something about a carrier and Regan.

	21-07-2003 07:46									#276
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quote: Originally posted by molly bloom Not quite true: you were making a deliberate comparison between the American detention camps and German extermination camps by using the emotive term 'concentration camps'. To validate this comparison you would have to show that the purpose of the camps and the treatment of the inmates was in some way similar.

Forgive me my English. Detention is a new word for me. I simply didn't know how those capms called on English.

quote: Soviet Russia didn't just have Gulags- it also had the Red Army purges, 'show trials', 'Soviet science' (holding back genuine Russian scientific achievement for Stalinist correctness) and anti-semitism/racism and imperialism of its own (Tatars, Volga Germans, the Baltic republics...).

I guess more people suffered from Western imperialism and colonialism, than from Russian imperialism. And Yanks also had segregation, KKK, lynches, "hunt for the witches", etc.

	21-07-2003 07:51									#277
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Well yes. I realize that Serb is stupid but I was trying to give him a little credit for once.

Put your credit where the sun doesn't shine, smarta$$.

	21-07-2003 07:53									#278
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Put your credit where the sun doesn't shine, smarta$$.

Tut-tut. I was trying to be gracious.

	21-07-2003 07:54									#279
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quote: Originally posted by gopher It's by Senator Inouye, and its his bio, mostly about the service in WW2. Being a realist, you probably won't read it out of spite. Prove me wriong

Good reading. It's not about detention camps, more about 'the American dream' thing, but I like this story. Thanks.

	21-07-2003 07:57									#280
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Tut-tut. I was trying to be gracious.

Excuse me, I forget you are an American.

	22-07-2003 05:32									#281
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quote: Originally posted by Serb Excuse me, I forget you are an American.

Man, you are a sore loser, aren't you?

	22-07-2003 16:35									#282
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quote: Originally posted by Serb I guess more people suffered from Western imperialism and colonialism, than from Russian imperialism. And Yanks also had segregation, KKK, lynches, "hunt for the witches", etc.

Serb, you have a very biased view of your country's history. And "justifying" in your post mass murder of Stalin and the tsars by making comparisons to 17th-18th century witchhunts is bad form.

	23-07-2003 13:42									#283
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quote: Originally posted by Lonestar Man, you are a sore loser, aren't you?

It's not Ok for Americans to first say "f*ck you as$hole" and after that to say "I was trying to be gracious."
DD must be an exception then.

	23-07-2003 13:52									#284
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quote: Originally posted by Saras Serb, you have a very biased view of your country's history.

I know.
It's my country after all and I can't be completely unbiased no matter what.

quote: And "justifying" in your post mass murder of Stalin and the tsars by making comparisons to 17th-18th century witchhunts is bad form.

Actually I meant 20th century witchhunts in America, hunts for red a$$ commies.
So, you think I shouldlisten all this crap "Russkies are devils, Satans and redas$motherf*ckers" and stay silent? I'm tired of this "we are holier than you are, we are holier than everyone" crap. Could you count how many millions died in Africa and North and South Americas thanks to "we are holier than Russkies" enlightened western imperialists? I doubt number will be lesser than number of Stalin's victims.

	23-07-2003 18:05									#285
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quote: Originally posted by Serb I know. It's my country after all and I can't be completely unbiased no matter what. Actually I meant 20th century witchhunts in America, hunts for red a$$ commies. So, you think I shouldlisten all this crap "Russkies are devils, Satans and redas$motherf*ckers" and stay silent? I'm tired of this "we are holier than you are, we are holier than everyone" crap. Could you count how many millions died in Africa and North and South Americas thanks to "we are holier than Russkies" enlightened western imperialists? I doubt number will be lesser than number of Stalin's victims.

may the truth set you free , ....

	23-07-2003 22:14									#286
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We need more Altzheimer jokes.

What's the best part of getting Altzheimers?

-You can hide your own easter eggs.
-You meet new people every day.
-You can buy your own christmas presents