12-08-2003 12:24									#331
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Yes.

	12-08-2003 16:40									#332
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Yes you get a point if you are ahead of the human. The AI are irrelevent for the *9's. If you need to post a *9 do so here (at least until they move us to a new forum)


http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=94118

	12-08-2003 17:13									#333
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Yes, you get the point if you are ahead of the human. The AI don't matter when it comes to *9

	12-08-2003 17:14									#334
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I have accepted Birdman's offer to teammate with him for this SL season. Never played before or participated in discussion in the SuperLeague so any redirection or note would be appreciated.

In the first post of this thread there is a link which I suppose is the thread with the most current rules despite they are 9 months old, right?

	12-08-2003 17:20									#335
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Keygen, Birdman..

Here are the most recent super league rules, pairings, and standings.

summary thread

I will update the pairings tonight to add your team so you will know who to start up with.

Thanks for joining

	13-08-2003 21:07									#336
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Ok, regarding scoring... you get a point if you are in the lead on each 9* turn. There is also a bonus if you win in under 100 turns and another bonus if you win under 150 turns.

However, you would get the most points if you wipped out your opponents down to the last city, and then just build a wall of fortresses around him and keep him in the game for 300 turns... LOL

Please tell me this isn't so...

	14-08-2003 02:16									#337
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checkMate, thanks for the link and for running the 2nd season of SL

Yoda, thanks for the info and I guess the player(s) left with one city would surrender unless that is forbidden - something I don't see in the rules.

I also read that winning under 100 turns you get less points than winning under 150 turns. How can this be? We all know that winning faster is more challenging...

And about the game settings, can different ones be used if accepted by the players in a game or not? Is PBEM Mod allowed?

	14-08-2003 02:54									#338
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Keygen: I haven't a clue why the bonus for winning in -100 turns is less than -150... it certainly wasn't the case last season.

Game settings are by mutual agreement by all players, though the standard ones are set by default.

PBEM mod is allowed.

	14-08-2003 03:39									#339
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy PBEM mod is allowed.

What's PBEM mod?

	14-08-2003 06:56									#340
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quote: Originally posted by yoda Ok, regarding scoring... you get a point if you are in the lead on each 9* turn. There is also a bonus if you win in under 100 turns and another bonus if you win under 150 turns. However, you would get the most points if you wipped out your opponents down to the last city, and then just build a wall of fortresses around him and keep him in the game for 300 turns... LOL Please tell me this isn't so...

YES, YES, YES. Very sorry, this is my mistake.

It should be 10 bonus for 100, and 5 bonus for 150.
I inverted it. Thank you for pointing this out. I will
fix it on the next update.

Players should definitely resign when they are
surrounded or otherwise think they are going to loose.
The *9 scoring basically encourages this. The bonus
as 100 and 150 encourages hanging in there for at
least that long.

	14-08-2003 06:58									#341
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quote: Originally posted by yoda What's PBEM mod?

PBEM is Play By EMail

mod refers to "modifications" to the game behavior
such as the medievel mod, or awesome AIPs etc.

The players voted strongly against use of any mods
in the Super League.

	14-08-2003 07:05									#342
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Did anybody here if or when we would get moved to a new forum?

	14-08-2003 07:19									#343
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	14-08-2003 07:54									#344
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quote: Originally posted by yoda What's PBEM mod?

PBEM Mod is a "scenario" where each player gets 3 "super settlers". When the super settlers settle, you get 2 phalanx, one settler and a mounted archer.

Basically it speeds up the beginning of the game.

	14-08-2003 07:55									#345
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate Did anybody here if or when we would get moved to a new forum?

DanQ is very busy at the moment with off-line and on-line activities.

It is imperitive than none of you whine to him, as it will only push us to the back of the line.

	14-08-2003 08:45									#346
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate YES, YES, YES. Very sorry, this is my mistake. It should be 10 bonus for 100, and 5 bonus for 150. I inverted it. Thank you for pointing this out. I will fix it on the next update. Players should definitely resign when they are surrounded or otherwise think they are going to loose. The *9 scoring basically encourages this. The bonus as 100 and 150 encourages hanging in there for at least that long.

Ok, so are there any points for simply winning? Let say someone has the lead for 60 turns, and then it goes back and forth for 40 turns, and then the other person bolts ahead and the first player concedes at turn 108. Score, 8 to 7 for the loser... Hmmm...

yoda

	14-08-2003 08:51									#347
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You probably meant turn 158. But yes the losing player would obtain more bonus points than the winning player. However, the bonus points are used only for tie breaks. I guess Last season Frozzy did have a bonus simply for winning, but I don't remember what it was if any? We could do that if no-one objects.

Frozzy did you have that last time? I think it was 10 for winning, yes?

	14-08-2003 09:01									#348
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It was 10 in 1x1 and 20 in 2x2

	14-08-2003 15:16									#349
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quote: Originally posted by yoda What's PBEM mod?

quote: Originally posted by checkMate PBEM is Play By EMail mod refers to "modifications" to the game behavior such as the medievel mod, or awesome AIPs etc. The players voted strongly against use of any mods in the Super League.

quote: Originally posted by Frozzy PBEM Mod is a "scenario" where each player gets 3 "super settlers". When the super settlers settle, you get 2 phalanx, one settler and a mounted archer. Basically it speeds up the beginning of the game.

Download the attachment and read the readme..txt for more information on what PBEM Mode is.

It accelerates the starting part of a PBEM.
I strongly recommend it

	14-08-2003 17:07									#350
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy It was 10 in 1x1 and 20 in 2x2

Thanks Frozzy

I guess in a way, this bonus may not be as necessary as before since we already have the win/loss scoring seperately, but anyway I would like to here what you'll think?

I am leaning toward adding the above bonus scoring to the scoring rules.

	15-08-2003 04:54									#351
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate Thanks Frozzy I guess in a way, this bonus may not be as necessary as before since we already have the win/loss scoring seperately, but anyway I would like to here what you'll think? I am leaning toward adding the above bonus scoring to the scoring rules.

After thinking a bit more, I don't think this is necessary.
Bonus points for winning would be redundant. The Bonus points are to break ties in the win/loss record. Teams that are tied will also get exactly the same number of game win bonuses so it would not serve to break a tie.

	15-08-2003 14:54									#352
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Even in that way checkmate I would recommend we keep the extra bonus points for fast wins.

If there is a draw at the top after all those points could play a critical point as winning fast is difficult in large maps and would prompt people to go for fast games, thus accelerate the whole SuperLeague progress.

If not people would probably seat back, wait for the ALP and spend perhaps a couple of years for a season.

I would even rise the bonus points earned by winning under turn 100 or 150 personally.

	15-08-2003 16:46									#353
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Oh yes, I was only thinking of leaving out the "winning" bonus. The normal bonus for 100 and 150 turns is still there.

	16-08-2003 13:25									#354
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Indeed

	17-08-2003 20:00									#355
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hi people, im finally back online again
i will make my turns as soon as possible.

	18-08-2003 09:57									#356
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THANKS VERY MUCH TO DANQ AND FROZZY FOR MAKING OUR VERY OWN THREAD FOR SUPER LEAGUE A REALITY!!!!!

	18-08-2003 10:14									#357
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	18-08-2003 10:25									#358
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quote: Originally posted by checkMate THANKS VERY MUCH TO DANQ AND FROZZY FOR MAKING OUR VERY OWN THREAD FOR SUPER LEAGUE A REALITY!!!!!

Hehe... I'm just glad it's here

Also want to thank Solver for his complaining

	18-08-2003 11:51									#359
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Bump -> I had spammed this to the bottom

	19-08-2003 05:46									#360
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What was decided on RESTARTS? Are they allowed? Does it have to be by agreement of all players? What if someone believes their position is unplayable?

Thanks,
yoda