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Mathemagician is offline Mathemagician
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2) Re-spin all new totally random teams when Berx/Quinns are added.


what is team spinning ?

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Team spinning just means re-assigning the players to teams. As in re-running the random process. Or re-picking the teams in some other way. "Recreate the teams"

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I've been in contact with DanQ (one of the two administrators who run Apolyton CS), suggesting the SuperLeague gets it's own sub-forum. This will enable us to find threads easier, and generally be more organised than keeping all the competition threads in this forum with 30 others. Please note this forum will be in CtP-Multiplaying, not on it's own.

However, to recieve this forum (which, quite frankly, we need) DanQ requires 12 SuperLeague participants (out of the 15 or 16 we have) to pledge their support towards a forum and that they will use the forum.

You can PM DanQ here. Again, I urge you to support this so we don't have lost threads.

Also, should 12 people support this endeavour, DanQ requests that a moderator be nominated to keep the threads tidy et al. I am currently doing this in the CtP Democracy Game, and am willing to moderate the SuperLeague forum, should we get it, and it is the will of the other participants.

So... PM DanQ!

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Sent a message to DanQ

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I also sent a message to DanQ

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Originally posted by ricketyclik
I suspect berX won't play.


ricketyclik is right, I wont play in this season.

Thank you anyway for invitation.

I think this kind of seasons are good to keep on live CTP PBEM.

I have some reasons to don't play in season 2:

a) I have a new game I'm playing: Raise of Nations

b) Season 1 is not finished yet, I completed all my 1 vs 1 games but the 2 vs 2 is stuck at turn 7 ( I don't think it'll be finished ever )

c) My partner co-funder of Superleague 1 drop the games and I never managed to get a new partner, even when he return to apolyton community he never involved again to finish season 1.


From my experience I can suggest you to make a hard work on rules about 2 vs 2 games about timing if you want to see some results.

And you must think about what to do if a team is broken without a replacement within 2 months or so.



Happy gamming

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c) My partner co-funder of Superleague 1 drop the games and I never managed to get a new partner, even when he return to apolyton community he never involved again to finish season 1.

Happy gamming


If you need partner for a game of two, I'll finish the games with you.
yoda

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  Old Post 04-08-2003 22:15
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Ok there we have it then. Berx ain't playing.

I think I will post a poll as follows.

"Do you wish to veto the current teams.?"

Four vetos will force the super league to re-create the teams?"

a) yes
b) no


We probably have about 50-50 chance that the current teams will be rejected by this poll.

If the above poll rejects the current teams

The next poll will be

"How do you want the super league to create teams.?"

a) Create all teams with a random process.

b) First form two tiers of players and then create all teams with a random process where tier one players may be teamed only with tier two players.

if a) is chosen we would probably still have to vote on whether the random teams are ok. Probably should use the four player veto poll again. Keep re-creating until no four players are un-happy.

if c) is chosen we will be here for some time trying to work out a tier system. I think that if this method is chosen we should go with the very first random picks we get since, presumably, we already prevented super teams and newbie teams by our tier system.

In any case, I do agree with Frozzy when he said.

"life is to short to drink bad wine"

the application here being

"PBEM super league is to long to play with bad teams."

I hope no-one is getting impatient with the start-up process, but this has the potential of being a very good tournament, so it seems worthwhile to get it right at the start.

However, I don't necessarily think the teams we have now are too bad, but if four players do think they are bad we will spin new ones.

Last edited by checkMate on 04-08-2003 at 22:26

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If people are not happy with the current pairing, why not play "first to meet"? In other words, 4 people join a game and play individually until they meet someone. Once the first people meet, they MUST declare it.

This way, you may end up have different partners for each game and everyone gets some different game-style perspectives.

Personally, I do not want to be randomly matched with one person for all games. If I don't have a choice of partners (Dr. Doom), the first to meet rule would be acceptable.

yoda

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That is not a bad idea. But lets first see
whether four people are unhappy with the current teams.

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first to meet sounds somewhat interesting at first sight, but it would mean that the first two meeting players are always a team and not enemies. remains to ask if we want that in a 2x2 game/league...

i think id rather go for the random process IF i cannot play with rickety

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also, for the first to meet suggestion we would need individual team rankings instead of team team rankings...

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Well it would turn the super league into something
quite different. It wouldn't really be a team game any more since the team would not exist as an entity.

I'm hoping we play with the teams we have myself.

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Points could still be awarded by player with team totals (playing together or not). A first meet type of game could also bring more politics into play. How trustworthy is your partner anyhow? LOL

Anyway, just a thought.
yoda

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Oh yes, I forgot to mention. If it is Dr. Doom and I, we will use the team name "The Force".

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Yeah, I was thinking that if you really hated your team mate and you were willing to sacrifice yourself, you could make sure that he didn't come in first

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Below is my interpretation of the polls for the Super League Game Start Setting Rules. Please let me know if I may have missed something.

Super League Game Rules

Also please register your veto here if you don't like the current team settings.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=93882


I note that there was one veto, but it is anonymous so far. Please email me or let me know if you vetoed. For one thing I want to make sure the vetos are from active super league players, but it would also be good to hear your issue so that it may be resolved. I think it is important that everybody is happy with the teams (within all reasonable effort)

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If you need partner for a game of two, I'll finish the games with you.
yoda


Thanx, but I think I prefer not to continue those games, to me season 1 is finished.

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Speaking of partners, I have decided that I will not be teaming up with Dr. Doom. If he wants to play in the superleague, he will have to find another partner.

I will ask Paul to join as my partner if there are no objections. If Paul is not interested, or if there are any objections, I am willing to partner up with anyone else.

yoda

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Let us know soon if Paul won't play so that we can recruit somebody.

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  Old Post 06-08-2003 10:16
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If Paul isn't willing to play in SuperLeague, I would be willing to team with yoda, and Dr. Doom (if the interest remains) would be able to team with Protoss72000.

Anything to get this thing going!

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In my humble opinion, we should start now. The season is going to take a good week or two to get going, so there is no need to wait for 1 or 2 players to make up their minds. How about a 10-day window for teams to "register", meaning that they must play a full round in each game. After the 10 day period, no new teams may join in unless they petition the active players as a whole, and we decide the issue by a simple majority vote.

Speaking of which, how does the next part proceed? I suggest that we elect 2 people to start the game. "The Scheduler" to draw up a list of all decisions that must be made randomly, such as which players play 1st in the single player games, and the order of play for the single and 2-player games. The other person will simply toss a coin for The Scheduler, with no knowledge of what he is tossing a coin to determine. I guess we'll call that person "The Tosser". This process should be fairly simple and not take up too much time, and will probably be easiest to do with msn messenger or something similar.

Considering that Checkmate seems to be the most dedicated to this, I nominate him as The Scheduler, if he accepts. I volunteer to be The Tosser in the interest of getting things started.

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I think we should start as well.
We just won't start playing the games with The Force
until Yoda can get a team together.
If they fail to get a team together then we can always recruit another team.

As for the pairing schedule I had already worked this out with some random numbers. Actually the whole pairing system was worked out so that colors were balanced. These pairings were worked out with anonymous player names (A1,B1,A2,B2 etc..)

The random numbers were used to assign players
to the A1, B1, etc....

I will post the schedule shortly in a poll thread as to whether we should start.

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Is Dr. Doom actually interested in playing. I hadn't seen him post in this thread at all. Did I miss it?

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Is Dr. Doom actually interested in playing. I hadn't seen him post in this thread at all. Did I miss it?


I don't know if he is still interested in playing. Perhaps you should email him and ask him.

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Well I like the idea of starting with the existing teams and adding The Force when the Force is with them. But lets see what Dr.Doom says. I emailed him Frozzy's proposal. Should know by tommorrow night I guess.

This looks like a bit oputunistic on Frozzy's part though

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Ok so Checkmate, how do we start? Just tell me what games to setup, and I will start them right now.

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Ok then, ready or not here we go.

We will start.

I'll post the pairings here shortly.

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The 2x2 games are posted below. If you have blue in a game, please post to the other players to negotiate settings and get started. Please do not start any games with Yoda or Dr.Doom until that team decides on its members.

2X2 Pairings

Likewise the Round 1 1x1 games are posted below. Same drill; if you have blue in a game, please post to the other players to negotiate settings and get started. Please do not start any games with Yoda or Dr.Doom until that team decides on its members.

1x1 Pairings

If the tables are unclear to anyone the fault is mine. Please ask and I will try to explain.

When any game makes a complete turn back to blue please post in the thread so that I can keep a status. Also remember to post your *9 results in all games.

Don't forget that the rules below are the defualt and any or all line items may be demanded by one player.

Game Settings

The teams and emails of each player are posted here.

Super League Teams


GOOD LUCK !!

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Game time just a couple questions,

in some of the 1v1 there isnt a blue player, take game 7 for instance, its pink vs orange, should one of us (like me ) just start the game up?

for the *9 thing in a 2v2, if only one person from a team is at the top of the graph and the other person is in 3rd or 4th, do they still get a point, or do they both need to be at the top, 1st and 2nd place?

@Frozzy,
here is my email since im sure you dont have it: Protoss72000@hotmail.com

not sure what kind of team name you are thinking of, i really like Lotr so something like 'Guards of Gondor' or something would work , of course if you had something in mind just tell me since im good with whatever name you want

for the games that i am in blue that we are in, am gonna send emails in just a moment and get those set up

time for for us to crush all who oppose us

 
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