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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:29
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MrFun:
you damn well know that there is some good in their messages and they can be seen as some very inspiring people... wasnt Falwell the son of an abusive drunk father and he discovered religion when his father made a deathbed conversion? Falwell is not a man you can hate because he has strong faith and wants people to live as the Bible proscribed (and even if you are an athiest, you can still see that a lot of the rules in the bible are good moral rules)...
i'm not saying he or robertson is great and they are completely right but aside from their occasional extremeness, they have good messages. the man who listens to Falwell, Robertson, Farrakhan... whoever... is a man who will take care of his kids, stay loyal to his wife, and work hard to live a good life and be worthy of heaven.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:29
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oh my god...
now i know people here on apolyton always say that i got a tendency to just throw out some extreme, half thought out **** and then come up with crazy information based on a small set of experiences... but nevertheless, i think it's fair to say that most people on apolyton see that i got a thinking mind (even if it's misguided or lacking in experiene) and i am capable of reasonably debating an issue...
you fez on the other hand are a disgrace to the right-wing on apolyton if you keep on posting bullshit responses to people's points such as "BULLSHIT! you are laughable and wrong!"
want to debate in spanish or something? maybe that's it... you dont know enough english to post like you got a brain... in any event, refute or respond with something besides insults... or, as i do if i don't know what to say, just keep your mouth shut.
thanks
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Guynemer
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A Fez-Speer flamefest... this is like... nirvana.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:29
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Guy:
though you just about completely disagree with my views, you understood what i was trying to say about pat robertson et al not being that bad. there are some real good aspects in the messages of christian (and muslim) fundamentalism but they do get lost in that intolerance and extremism...
and even if you do disagree with this, would me saying that be worthy of "Bullshit! you are an idiot!"?
thanks
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:29
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have attitudes towards gays really changed over the 20th century? i'm serious... i used to be into world war 1 and i read books about it and i remember in a book about the Lafeyette escadrille, (published in the 40's or 50's) they was talking about how the people would sometimes joke about this guy in the squadron who had homosexual tendencies... ultimately, they lived and fought with him and all that. what was especially note-worthy was the fact that this guy's homosexuality was mentioned only once in the huge book and given only a single sentence, making it seem as though it was not at all a concern.
i know more people now admit to being gay and what not, but have attitudes towards gays changed at all cause it seems as though the attitudes of the American pilots in the escadrille all the way back in 1917 were the same as they are today
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:29
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Tuberski:
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You can get that same message from the Bible or Koran, without the hate. |
yeah but you know how it is... people don't know the sermon unless someone preaches it to them... maybe we could get better people doing it than Falwell, Robertson, and countless street preachers but they're being smart about it... true, the good preachers are those you'll never see unless you make the act to go to church (which probably means you got an inkling towards religion in the first place) but falwell and robertson catch you on the tv... street preachers catch you on the corner... they try to get the non-religious in the fold (or at least living the christian or muslim life). it's ironic though how they are the extreme ones especially if they're also the same ones trying to convert.
and thank you tuberski for your kind words.
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Albert Speer
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Puerile Polemic
Mar 1999
time: 00:29
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oh my god... was i the only one thinking Sava was half making fun of Fez with that "You are definently a funny guy"? as if Fez was funny because Sava laughs at him?
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17-07-2003 06:44
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