19-07-2003 20:55									#181
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There's a difference between hating one's self because of being white, and hating stupid mother****ers that are white.

	19-07-2003 20:56									#182
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Yes, there is.

	19-07-2003 21:04									#183
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The point is that racists are Republicans. Some Republicans may not be racist, but they choose to vote for politicians who are rascist. They don't care about racism as much as other issues. To me these 'moderates' are borderline.

	19-07-2003 21:07									#184
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There are racists everywhere Kid... even on the Dems. In Chicago, there are a large amount of Daley supporters that I would consider to be racists. They aren't as overboard as people like Lott, Thurmond, and Helms... but they exist. To single out the Republican party is wrong. There are a great majority of Republicans who aren't racists. You are focusing on a few and making a sweeping generalization. While I share the notion that the Republican party is generally evil, it's not fair to call ALL of them racists.

	19-07-2003 21:10									#185
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Powell and Condie aren't black... BTW, the color of your skin doesn't make you "black".

Are we operating under the racist assumption that blacks are supposed to be somesort of monolithic group?

	19-07-2003 21:10									#186
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I can't believe what I just saw.

	19-07-2003 21:10									#187
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quote: Are we operating under the racist assumption that blacks are supposed to be somesort of monolithic group?

Being "black" in America is a cultural identity...

	19-07-2003 21:13									#188
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quote: Originally posted by Sava Being "black" in America is a cultural identity...

Are we operating under the racist assumption that blacks in America are supposed to be somesort of monolithic group and agree with Al Sharpton and whatnot?

	19-07-2003 21:15									#189
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quote: we already established you're a racist... i mean you said how you (even though you're like a kick boxer or something) are scarred to death of a black man walking on the same side of the street as you

WTF? Actually, what I said was that at night in a rough neighborhood, if a group of blacks come towards me I'm likely to cross the street, but then again this is likely no matter what race it is. This is personal safety, and I don't give a **** if it hurts feelings.

quote: and you think black women are ugly for 'personal tastes' reasons...

Actually, I said I'm not at all attracted to them. They might be very pretty, I'm just not usually into them.

	19-07-2003 21:15									#190
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quote: Originally posted by Sava There are racists everywhere Kid... even on the Dems. In Chicago, there are a large amount of Daley supporters that I would consider to be racists. They aren't as overboard as people like Lott, Thurmond, and Helms... but they exist. To single out the Republican party is wrong. There are a great majority of Republicans who aren't racists. You are focusing on a few and making a sweeping generalization. While I share the notion that the Republican party is generally evil, it's not fair to call ALL of them racists.

I have to disagree with you. MOST Republicans are racist. Remember that there are two types of racists. You have the Nazi type of racist that is very vocal, and then you have the type that says that they aren't racist, but elects politicians who support racist policies. Keep in mind that they claim that those policies aren't racist, but in fact they are.

	19-07-2003 23:46									#191
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quote: I'm reflecting the attitudes of the mainstream African American population. My best friend's dad... who's black BTW, screams "Uncle Tom Motherf***er!" every time he sees Powell or Condie on TV.

I thought Sava, you're the one who always said i shouldn't use a few individuals to describe the attitudes of a whole group of people... you used just one...

and i know literally dozens of black people who do like Colin Powell and Rice and Thomas and whoever else... they just think they're democrats or they respect them even if they dont agree with them (and many do agree with them still). so over 30 individuals' viewpoints is a better sample of 'black attitudes' than your oreo friend's father.

	19-07-2003 23:49									#192
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quote: WTF? Actually, what I said was that at night in a rough neighborhood, if a group of blacks come towards me I'm likely to cross the street, but then again this is likely no matter what race it is. This is personal safety, and I don't give a **** if it hurts feelings.

sounds racist to me... what about a group of irish people?

	20-07-2003 00:08									#193
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quote: Originally posted by Sava To single out the Republican party is wrong. There are a great majority of Republicans who aren't racists. You are focusing on a few and making a sweeping generalization. While I share the notion that the Republican party is generally evil, it's not fair to call ALL of them racists.

I'm a republican and a southerner. Do you think I'm racist?

	20-07-2003 00:11									#194
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If ole whitey has to pay reparations does that also mean the AFRICANS that sold their Brothers are responsible too?

	20-07-2003 04:18									#195
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where do asians and hispanics stand with this? i mean hispanic people did start slavery in the americas... would they have to pay too? by living in america, they are benefiting from the remnants of cotton money.

	20-07-2003 04:26									#196
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I want to say that I agree with Drake.

quote: Powell and Condie aren't black... BTW, the color of your skin doesn't make you "black".

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Why not? do you think that being black is living in da hood, and chilling with da hommies? Do you think that Bill Cosby is white because he's not selling crack?

damn, man... that's the stupidest statement I've ever heard from you.

	20-07-2003 04:30									#197
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of course blacks support reparations....if you thought you could get free money you'd support it, too. If there are any slaves still alive, then I'd be all for it. And even black who are over a certain age. But younger blacks did not go through slavery or discrimination and therefore, I don't feel they're anymore entitled to reparations than I am.

	20-07-2003 04:36									#198
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel I want to say that I agree with Drake. quote: Powell and Condie aren't black... BTW, the color of your skin doesn't make you "black". : Why not? do you think that being black is living in da hood, and chilling with da hommies? Do you think that Bill Cosby is white because he's not selling crack? damn, man... that's the stupidest statement I've ever heard from you.

It's good sig material though

	20-07-2003 04:38									#199
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Damn you damn you damn you. I wanted it first.

	20-07-2003 04:39									#200
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I dumped all of my old sig material, and replaced it with stuff from this thread

	20-07-2003 04:42									#201
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actually is the percentage of blacks in favour of reparations even that high? i remember seeing a poll asking blacks if they favoured reparations and i remember it was about 50-50 for and against... but i may be confusign it with another topic.

thanks

	20-07-2003 06:08									#202
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At the end of the civil war a large number of slave owners were bankrupt. My family definitely owned slaves, but after the war they were bankrupt and lost everything. What I have now isn't a result of money my ancestors made off the sweat of slaves' backs, but instead comes from what they managed to do for themselves after everything they made off of their slaves was gone. A more important issue is the way blacks were beaten down after the war.

	20-07-2003 06:57									#203
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quote: Remember that there are two types of racists.

What about the third type who says black people must think a certain way to be black?

	20-07-2003 07:01									#204
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quote: Originally posted by Berzerker What about the third type who says black people must think a certain way to be black?

Sava?

	20-07-2003 07:03									#205
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Sava?

Yes. I thought that was obvious.

	20-07-2003 07:05									#206
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He was just joking.

	20-07-2003 07:10									#207
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Then why would you feel the need to defend such idiocy?

	20-07-2003 07:16									#208
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quote: Originally posted by CorpusScorpius If ole whitey has to pay reparations does that also mean the AFRICANS that sold their Brothers are responsible too?

Or what about free blacks who themselves bought slaves? Are we supposed to give the decendents of former slave holders reparations?

This is just to stupid.

	20-07-2003 07:21									#209
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like i said earlier, reparations are a mess and they open up a huge can of worms and only start to pit people against each other...

so no to reparations...

	20-07-2003 07:38									#210
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer like i said earlier, reparations are a mess and they open up a huge can of worms and only start to pit people against each other... so no to reparations...

Don't confuse it with capitalism.