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Pekka is offline Pekka
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Maybe, but only an idiot would say m16 is the best in the whole world, right now.

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m16 best rifle there is? Man, get your facts straight. It is a good weapon, but certainly not THE best. Or where do you base your feelings on? Experience?


Actually you are wrong.. it is the best.

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The M-16 and M-4 need more maintainance but are so much better


Especially in a Desert Environment I would rather have a AK-47 I can actually shoot with, than a M-16 that I canīt use, because it constantly jams

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Maybe, but only an idiot would say m16 is the best in the whole world, right now.


Name one better.

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Especially in a Desert Environment I would rather have a AK-47 I can actually shoot with, than a M-16 that I canīt use, because it constantly jams


Actually it doesn't constantly jam if you know how to maintain it. And if it did, why did Iraq go down so fast?

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Well. You have to first decide what kind of situation it will be used, then what kind of terrain it is. Ok, but I'm out for grocery store, I'll get back and list some good rifles.

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Well. You have to first decide what kind of situation it will be used, then what kind of terrain it is. Ok, but I'm out for grocery store, I'll get back and list some good rifles.


Perhaps the G-36.. but it is very new...

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Old rusty crap? The AN-94 has problems with clogging and gets jammed often. How do I know? I fired one. The construction is cheap and crappy.


You are such an Fez.
You never fired AN-94 as long you never served in any Russian elite forces. It's best assult rifle in the world. And it's not cheap. M-16 it's old rusty crap in comparison with 'Abakan'.
If you would ever fired from this gun, then you would know a couple of things about this weapon. How many firing modes it have? What is the clip capacity? A rate of fire? Bullet's speed? Accuracy?
If you would knew those things, you would never said that M-16 is superior, because if you compare those parameters you'll see that M-16 in deep sh!t in comparison. Not to mention to saying that Russian made AR is less relaible then M-16 is complete absurd, because your beloved M-16 is known as one of the most unrelaible AR ever, while Russian AR of Kalashnikov's series known as the most relaible AR ever.
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The M-16 and M-4 need more maintainance but are so much better... they are years ahead of the Russian crap. Only an idiot would say the AN-94 was better..

You're an idiot and crazy, ignorant uncle Sam's worshiper Fez, do you know this?
Edit: I forget to add that you are bullsh!ter and a lair.
Have a nice day.

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Is a warshiper somebody who worships warships?

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Maybe, but only an idiot would say m16 is the best in the whole world, right now.

Pekka, but Fez is

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You are such an Fez.
You never fired AN-94 as long you never served in any Russian elite forces. It's best assult rifle in the world. And it's not cheap. M-16 it's old rusty crap in comparison with 'Abakan'.


I fired both and find the Abakan to be a cheap piece of ****.

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If you would ever fired from this gun, then you would know a couple of things about this weapon. How many firing modes it have? What is the clip capacity? A rate of fire? Bullet's speed? Accuracy?
If you would knew those things, you would never said that M-16 is superior, because if you compare those parameters you'll see that M-16 in deep sh!t in comparison.


You are an idiot. The accuracy is way better on the M-16, so is the rate of fire and the clip capacity can depend. M-16 has single shot and auto.

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Not to mention to saying that Russian made AR is less relaible then M-16 is complete absurd, because your beloved M-16 is known as one of the most unrelaible AR ever, while Russian AR of Kalashnikov's series known as the most relaible AR ever.


The AK series is pure garbage man. I had my hand almost taken off by that crap.. not to mention it burned my hand because it was so poorly constructed.

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You're an idiot and crazy uncle Sam's warshiper Fez, do you know this?
Edit: I forget to add that you are bullsh!ter and a lair.
Have a nice day.


You are a idiot, bullshiter and liar. So shut up you crazy stalinist dingbat.

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Is a warshiper somebody who worships warships?

thanks.

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Oh c'mon guys! Don't you get it? Fez is not a real person, he is only trolling you, succesfully.
And Pekka is right M16 isnt that good, the israelies have improved version of it which is pretty good, but the american version just isnt reliable. Remember what happened to jessica lynch and shis compadres? Their m16 jammed.

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Laurentius, that is crap. You are not the real person around here. You are just a mumbling fool.

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Sure fezzie

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Laurentius, that is crap. You are not the real person around here. You are just a mumbling fool.




Anybody around who needs a new sig?

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But you dumb russians got more to be worried about the next generation of American rifles...



The M-16's successor:


http://world.guns.ru/assault/as61-e.htm

By the M-16 isn't my favorite. The G-36 is.

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Laurentius, you remind me of Curly from the Three Stooges.

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I dunno what you're talking about Fez. I'm glad I'm such an ignorant eurocommie.

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Oh my... don't tell me you don't know... oh forgot it.. you are hopeless.

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I fired both and find the Abakan to be a cheap piece of ****.

You're little laing piece of ****. The only place where one can shot from Abakan it's training ground of Russian special or elite forces. Since you never was in Russia and never served in Russian Specnaz, you never fired from this gun and you can't know a thing about it.

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You are an idiot. The accuracy is way better on the M-16, so is the rate of fire and the clip capacity can depend. M-16 has single shot and auto.

I asked about AN-94 parameters, not about M-16 parameters. A trained shooter can make a single hole in the target at 100 meters with AN-94 using its 2-rounds burst mode. A thing that he will NEVER, NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES will achieve using M-16.
And aside M-16, AN-94 have three firing modes: single, 2-rounds burst mode and full burst mode. It have three types of clips for 60, 45 or 30 bullets. It's theoretical rate of fire in 2-rounds burst mode is 1800 rounds per minutes. Almost a speed of American 'Phalanx'. You do know wtf is 'phalanx' is? nah i doubt.
And you dare to shout that this old crappy design M-16 is better than AN-94, one of the newest Russian ARs?
M-16 was worse than Kalashnikovs and its decades behind Abakan.
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The AK series is pure garbage man. I had my hand almost taken off by that crap.. not to mention it burned my hand because it was so poorly constructed.

Pure Euroboy, go play with your dolls then.

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You are a idiot, bullshiter and liar. So shut up you crazy stalinist dingbat.

FY, liar.

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You're little laing piece of ****. The only place where one can shot from Abakan it's training ground of Russian special or elite forces. Since you never was in Russia and never served in Russian Specnaz, you never fired from this gun and you can't know a thing about it.


Then explain to me why Russia is losing the war in Chechyna?

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I asked about AN-94 parameters, not about M-16 parameters. A trained shooter can make a single hole in the target at 100 meters using AN-94 using its 2-rounds burst mode. A thing that he will NEVER, NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES will achieve using M-16.


Actually that's false.

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And aside M-16, AN-94 have three firing modes: single, 2-rounds burst mode and full burst mode. It have three types of clips for 60, 45 or 30 bullets. It's theoretical rate of fire in 2-rounds burst mode is 1800 rounds per minutes. Almost a speed of


You have no clue. You can't fire if the thing will take off your hand and have a pull back greater than you can sustain. You can't even have it in full auto because it is such crap.

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And you dare to shout that this old crappy design M-16 is better than AN-94, one of the newest Russian ARs?
M-16 was worse than Kalashnikovs and its decades behind Abakan.


YOu are a damn idiot! The M-16 wipes the AK series out of the water.. and the Abakan is a big damn joke. The Russians can't even afford to replace the Ak-47 rifles still in service.

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Pure Euroboy, go play with your dolls then.


FY, lier.


You are a ****ing liar.

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Oh and actually the Abakan has been exported, you dull witted piece of rubbish.

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Oh c'mon guys! Don't you get it? Fez is not a real person, he is only trolling you, succesfully.


You mean, he is not the Brother of the iraqui Information Minister, who emigrated into the United States a long time before the War? :

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**** off. That is serb.

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Look at those things? Those things are a piece of crap.



Russia stole that design to makes it AK-47. That was actually German. The Stg .44.

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Then explain to me why Russia is losing the war in Chechyna?

So you admit that you are f*cking liar who was lying when saying that he fired from AN-94?
Russian loosing war in Chechnya?
Only in your sick mind, Euroboy. Not in reality.
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Actually that's false.


So, you are even more stiupid then I thought. So, you seriously claim that a trained shooter can make a single hole in the target at 100 meters using M-16 full burst mode?
What a moron.
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You have no clue. You can't fire if the thing will take off your hand and have a pull back greater than you can sustain. You can't even have it in full auto because it is such crap.

Abakan is RECOILESS assault rifle. Do you know what word recoiless means?
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YOu are a damn idiot! The M-16 wipes the AK series out of the water.. and the Abakan is a big damn joke. The Russians can't even afford to replace the Ak-47 rifles still in service.

Ak-47 is the most popular assault rifle in the world thatnks to its realibality and great combat capabilities. But there are no AK-47 in Russian army. AK-74 is main assult rifle of Russian army. And AK-74 is much better weapon then M-16. And AN-94 is MUCH better then AK-74.
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You are a ****ing liar.

I hardly can imagin a more dumb person than you are.
Have a nice day. I don't want to waste my time on such holpless moron.

 
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