22-07-2003 09:39									#1
	Damn taxes... Support Apolyton

I got my first paycheck from mcdonald's today. i got hired on the last day of a pay period so I only got a single day's pay which was good for me to get things in perspective (8 hours rather than getting lost in a mess of 40+ hours)... also, all my previous jobs were under the table so i never had to deal with taxes before...

and damn... my raw pay is 47.15 but after 7.03 in taxes, i'm down to 40.12...

thank you, democrats for taking my 7 dollars away (an hour and a half of work! all useless!)... 15% of the check right there...

	22-07-2003 09:41									#2
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I get dinged about $250 every 2 weeks now. But I get it all back in March 2004 in a refund, even though I need it now and not then.

	22-07-2003 09:43									#3
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You don't like taxes, then get off the street.

	22-07-2003 09:45									#4
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I'll save my liberal friends the effort on this one.

Ya, damn government, and it's taxes! Who needs roads, schools, jails, and national defenese! Always screwing us over, that sure as hell ain't worth 7 dollars!

	22-07-2003 09:49									#5
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Heck Albert, you're going to get 90%+ of your taxes back at the end of the year. If you're able to fanagle a few deductions then you might even make money off of the tax man but people like me get hosed. I don't make enough to where the tax bite doesn't matter but just enough so that the tax man can take it away.

	22-07-2003 09:51									#6
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i'm just saying... think about it... of 8 hours of working, a full hour and a half is gone in taxes... don't that sound like quite a bit much? 1.5 out of 8 hours?

	22-07-2003 09:55									#7
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1.5/8 isn't so bad especially since you're going to get most of it back at the end of the year when you file.

	22-07-2003 10:01									#8
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i dont know... i got bills to pay...

its funny though how there was this dealer right outside the mcdonalds waiting for us to get off cause he knew it was our payday... asking us if we wanted some killer weed... i mean it was like damn we aint even cash the checks yet... it is messed up though that at least two of them probably did buy some... thats a bit off their pay-check already

	22-07-2003 10:02									#9
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you know I was watching meet the press again last night, and republicans went on again how the poor don't pay taxes.

How can they not pay taxes, but I do? My yearly wages are low- and would be considered poor- why am I paying taxes, when supposedly other people are not?

I want to find out how to get out of paying taxes dammit! Taxes are for the rich

	22-07-2003 10:05									#10
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but anyway i dont know... all that **** like welfare, i got no use for it... roads... what do i care? i dont got a car... police... the cops are more likely to be messing with me than protecting me...

i'm not seeing too much good coming from these taxes...

	22-07-2003 10:06									#11
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I actually agree with you Alb, an hour of pay can be a huge thing when you are struggling to make ends meet. That's why I support either a more progressive tax model, or, ideally, libertarian-based communism.

Here's a cheat code for you, when you are filling out those tax forms, always claim head of household for an additional tax bonus.

	22-07-2003 10:07									#12
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what republicans are saying the poor don't pay taxes? i dont see how anyone could say this nor what the political point would be to say this... aint it better for the anti-tax republicans to say that they are going to take off the burden of taxes for the poor?

although poor might mean unemployed and welfare mothers and what not... anyone with a job i consider lower middle class.

	22-07-2003 10:12									#13
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quote: Originally posted by monkspider I actually agree with you Alb, an hour of pay can be a huge thing when you are struggling to make ends meet. That's why I support either a more progressive tax model, or, ideally, libertarian-based communism. Here's a cheat code for you, when you are filling out those tax forms, always claim head of household for an additional tax bonus.

you can't legally claim head of household can you?

	22-07-2003 10:12									#14
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Monkspider:

I will be the head of the household in a month but a household of just me do that count? or will i have to have a family for that?

	22-07-2003 10:15									#15
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Well, I always claim it, if nothing else, as a metaphorical, symbolic household head.

I'm not actually sure of all the legal technicalities of it all, but I am living with the fiance, so maybe I actually could anyway. And if you are head of your own household, well, that is good enough for me.

	22-07-2003 10:19									#16
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Actually, I think this white boy from the projects might finally be comin' up.
I just got a job doing tech support for some ISP around here and I will be making a whopping 20k a year, I don't know what to do with it all. I never thought I could ever be this rich. Between the Mrs. and I, we will make a combined 40k a year!

	22-07-2003 10:25									#17
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how complicated is the whole tax rebate thing? a lot of people i know don't even bother with it cause they say it's too hard.

	22-07-2003 10:27									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer i'm just saying... think about it... of 8 hours of working, a full hour and a half is gone in taxes... don't that sound like quite a bit much? 1.5 out of 8 hours?

How long would it take you if you had to hike your ass cross country, and provide for your own security, or perhap simply give up all your wages and clothes and beg for mercy, a la the middle ages?

	22-07-2003 10:30									#19
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MtG:

people back then were used to it

nah but we have progressed... tell me that 1.5 out of 8 hours in taxes isn't a bit steep though... in all seriousness... if it weren't for deductions and all that, that is quite a bit of a day's work lost in taxes.

	22-07-2003 10:31									#20
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Head of household means that you have a legal dependant. (a) you have to have one of the defined legal relationships in the Internal Revenue Code; (b) the dependent has to primarily live with you; and (c) you have to provide more than 50% of that dependant's support.

For HoH filing status, your bio or adopted kid under 18 (or under 22, if a full time student living with you, IIRC) or your disabled adult kid, or a parent for whom you provide a majority of financial support. There may be a few others, such as a minor who lives with you when you are the legal guardian, but not a parent.

Check the IRS website.

	22-07-2003 10:32									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer how complicated is the whole tax rebate thing? a lot of people i know don't even bother with it cause they say it's too hard.

What's the difference between ignorance and apathy? It ain't too hard if you look at it like a paying job.

	22-07-2003 10:34									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Albert Speer MtG: people back then were used to it nah but we have progressed... tell me that 1.5 out of 8 hours in taxes isn't a bit steep though... in all seriousness... if it weren't for deductions and all that, that is quite a bit of a day's work lost in taxes.

This year, I get to pay slightly in excess of 4 hours of every 8 worked between all forms of Federal, state and local taxes and mandatory business fees, etc.

So don't ***** to me.

	22-07-2003 10:34									#23
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MtG:

i figured it was people not knowing anything and being lazy... you can get all the forms at the public library and there's places where you can go where they'll help you out with your taxes for free... so yeah its probably people being stupid

	22-07-2003 10:34									#24
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Alb, it's not too tough actually. I usually fill out my own taxes, and after donating five dollars to Chickadee Checkoff, I can make out with a pretty sizeable load of money.

	22-07-2003 10:36									#25
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haha, mtg... thats a shame... you still working in mexico? but at least the four hours when you got paid you got quite a bit of money, right?

	22-07-2003 10:38									#26
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Mexico has a dirt cheap cost of living though, if I could speak Spanish, it wouldn't be a bad place to live at all.

	22-07-2003 10:44									#27
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Yeah - about 300 yards or so from the beach. Just far enough not to deal with traffic and noise, close enough to get the weather.

And yeah, this year I will max out on every tax bracket.

	22-07-2003 10:46									#28
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sure beats Riverside with all the cows huh mtg

	22-07-2003 10:53									#29
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so you got to pay Mexican taxes too, mtg?

	22-07-2003 11:12									#30
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Obviously I agree with AS on the tax issue.