22-07-2003 15:09									#1
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It seems to me that a 'wedding contract' benefits the woman only upon death or successful gouging via divorce lawyer. So who benefits the rest of the time?

Marriage is for SUCKERS. It's a way to keep you strapped down to your chair via your testicles or your ovaries. At least testicles are already external. Ovaries are pretty small and are occluded by a great deal of flesh.

In Muslim countries, you can divorce a spouse by repeating 3 times:

I divorce you.
I divorce you.
I divorce you.

And that's it. It seems to me that marriage is a much more oppressive institution than any found in political organisations or corporations. In modern day USA, we are barely half a step above arranged marriages.

I really like the sound of that:
I divorce you.
I divorce you.
I divorce you.

In fact:
I divorce you.
I divorce you.
I divorce you.

I'm feeling much better already.

	22-07-2003 15:12									#2
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You can't divorce me, we're not married.

these days in the UK people are living together more than getting married, and that's mainly 'cause they can't afford a mortgage on their own. Joint Mortgage is harder to get out of than a marriage anyway.

	22-07-2003 15:13									#3
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Marriage is for people who want to bring their girlfriends to Canada with them.

	22-07-2003 15:14									#4
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Rock on. If I knew a good Manchurian, I'd marry him in a second just to get UK citizenship.

And I think you meant, 'You can't divorce me yet, we're not married.'

	22-07-2003 15:16									#5
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin Rock on. If I knew a good Manchurian, I'd marry him in a second just to get UK citizenship. And I think you meant, 'You can't divorce me yet, we're not married.'

If by "Manchurian" you mean "supporter of Manchester United" then there aren't any good ones.

I'm a UK citizen, but I'm afraid I'm taken.

	22-07-2003 15:17									#6
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Marriage is for people who love to work a lot. All this "children" mess is terribly expensive, i'm not going to spend half of my life working like crazy for anyone, and that includes potential offsprings.

	22-07-2003 15:18									#7
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin And I think you meant, 'You can't divorce me yet, we're not married.'

Look, I'm sorry, you seem nice and everything but I'm really not ready for that kind of commitment right now.

	22-07-2003 15:21									#8
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I'm not trying to marry anyone; that way lies madness.

	22-07-2003 15:21									#9
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Marriage is very important to have kids. Kids are one of the three reasons we are in this world: To be happy, to make others happy, and to have kids (that would be happy, as well ).

What's especially funny, is I remember Eli whining about the demographic situation in Israel, and then saying that kids are a burden. Just like in dodging the combat draft, you're such a hypocrite, Eli.

	22-07-2003 15:21									#10
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin I'm not trying to marry anyone; that way lies madness.

I once said that.

	22-07-2003 15:22									#11
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin I'm not trying to marry anyone; that way lies madness.

*phew*

	22-07-2003 15:23									#12
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Ah, then the return of the once and future King is at hand.

Didn't think you'd end up that far north, didja?

	22-07-2003 15:33									#13
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH these days in the UK people are living together more than getting married, and that's mainly 'cause they can't afford a mortgage on their own. Joint Mortgage is harder to get out of than a marriage anyway.

Tell me about it! I've done both and the mortgage was the bigger problem

	22-07-2003 17:54									#14
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well, what if both parties are exceedingly happy with the marriage?

something like true love?

	22-07-2003 18:15									#15
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On one level marriage is a business. 2 people enter a partnership and sign a contract. This provides the foundation for everything they do afterwards, including their financial security.

Divorce is a huge disaster for most people. Its like a business gone bust. I think if people really thought through the consequences of divorce for everyone involved, less people would get divorced.

Marriage is a very sound structure for its purpose.

	22-07-2003 18:24									#16
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divorce sucks. if you're going to get married, make sure you want to be married.

	22-07-2003 18:29									#17
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Many people today are quitters.

	22-07-2003 18:38									#18
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Marriage roolz. Divorce sucks.

	22-07-2003 18:48									#19
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AH

Very well put. Marriage is a good structure for its purpose.

	22-07-2003 18:57									#20
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*From some fortune cookie*

Marriage involves commitment

Marriage is an institution

Marriage is commitment to an institution.

	22-07-2003 19:04									#21
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Death before divorce.

RAH
I'll kill her first
Happily married for 17+ and hopefully many more years.

	22-07-2003 19:07									#22
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quote: I'll kill her first

	22-07-2003 19:09									#23
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@rah.

the police are on their way.

	22-07-2003 19:10									#24
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Mrs horse would divorce me then kill me

	22-07-2003 19:29									#25
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Well, seeing as most people have sex before marriage nowadays, *civil* marriage, at least, is of course something of a joke. If there's nothing special about the state of marriage-it's just a mutually binding exclusive-banging-rights contract-of course it's a farce. That's why I think the whole gay-marriage argument is so stupid. Without a religion becoming involved, marriage is merely a societal certification for an activity you were allowed to do anyway. Oh yes, and you can pay taxes jointly too...

	22-07-2003 19:47									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Mrs horse would divorce me then kill me

to Mrs. Horse
You sometimes have to respect those that torture you before killing you. Especially if you're married to AH.

	22-07-2003 19:52									#27
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Originally, marriage was considered to be more of a "purchasing" ceremony for men, rather than a dual commitment. Adultery was considered a crime against property, and is even described as such in the Bible.

But now, marriage is a civil union between a man and a woman. Gays can have civil unions, that's fine. They can enjoy the same benefits in the eyes of the law and society can recognize the legitimacy of their union. But the definition of "marriage" entails "husband and wife". Most conservatives will agree with me (and I'm not speaking of 'Poly) but also object to legitimizing gay civil unions. Gay civil unions should be legal and recognized by the government. But they should not be called "marriages". That word is taken.

	23-07-2003 05:00									#28
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Sava, contrary to popular belief, Hebrews did not invent society.

Many people today are quitters.

Nah, the problem is that they leave things half-done.

Divorce is chickens. Real people commit suicide.

	23-07-2003 05:50									#29
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quote: Originally posted by rah to Mrs. Horse You sometimes have to respect those that torture you before killing you. Especially if you're married to AH.

Mrs Horse doesn't share my views on marriage btw. As far as she's concerned the divorce courts are only a phone call away

She also keeps a list of things she'll never forgive me for and updates it regularly

	23-07-2003 05:51									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse She also keeps a list of things she'll never forgive me for and updates it regularly

Keeps you on your toes, doesn't it?