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Adagio is offline Adagio

Emperor

Jun 2001
time: 06:29
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The PW system is the worst thing ever invented... Sure, the worker system isn't perfect either, but it beats the PW without any problems...
I can't tell exactly why I hate, but I just hate it...

Martin Gühmann is offline Martin Gühmann
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Mar 2001
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Originally posted by Proteus_MST
Aside from maybe altering it to let you build Roads ouside of your Borders


This can be done without the source code just modify the tileimp.txt and the right position and it is done.

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(or altering the "Borders"-Concept into some kind of Cultural Borders like in Civ3 there is no reason, to change anything within the PW-Concept.


Well cultural borders maybe a combo of both systems, maybe optional within a mod.

Yeah ADG you never moved more then 200 settlers over the world.

-Martin

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Emperor

Jun 2001
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Yeah ADG you never moved more then 200 settlers over the world.


I have tried that several times, but never got tired of it



But I get tired of using my mouse, to place those farms... Civ games should be played mostly by keyboard...

Barley is offline Barley
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England
Feb 2002
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  Old Post 29-07-2003 01:28
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Excellent news. I love CTP2 its my favorite game.

I will certainly join any group in terms of improving the game. Im not technical but am happy to suggest and comment on changes.

I prefer Multiplayer online so any changes that can improve that will be very much appreciated. Let me know when you get started - ill check in the CTP2 forums.

Oerdin is offline Oerdin
King
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Sep 2001
time: 21:29
  Old Post 29-07-2003 01:38
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I haven't seen Barley around in a long time.

Mr Ogre is offline Mr Ogre
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Azeroth
Jan 1970
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Right back at ya, D.

Are you still at Buzzard? Why hasn't Ogre made a cameo yet?


Too busy drinking mead, stealing carrots, knocking pebbles down wells in monster infested mines, lighting off fireworks in tents, shaving my feet, you know, the usual completely unhobbit-like activities. Plus I'm so short it's hard to reach the keyboard, I can only get out the crates to stand on every so often.

Let's get together for some lembas, eh? Two or three loaves ought to be enough.

ískallin is offline ískallin
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Mar 2002
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"We may allow ourselfs a brief moment of rejoicing, but let us not forget the toils and efforts that lie ahead" Winston Churchill may 8th 1945

God bless activision and god save the 'poly

Pedrunn is offline Pedrunn
King
of Natal, Brazil
Jul 2001
time: 02:29
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PLEASE, do not wake me up. Ths can only be a dream!!!!!

Unspeakable Horror is offline Unspeakable Horror
Emperor

Oct 1999
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Too busy drinking mead, stealing carrots, knocking pebbles down wells in monster infested mines, lighting off fireworks in tents, shaving my feet, you know, the usual completely unhobbit-like activities. Plus I'm so short it's hard to reach the keyboard, I can only get out the crates to stand on every so often.

Let's get together for some lembas, eh? Two or three loaves ought to be enough.


Velociryx is offline Velociryx
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Apr 1999
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One of THE best bits of news to hit the gaming world in quite some time. CtP2 (esp. with mods) is an outstanding game, and with the pending source code release (which I would be EXTREMELY interested in seeing!), it stands poised to blow Civ3 (and probably Civ4) right outta the water.

Outstanding news!

-=Vel=-

Solver is offline Solver
Apolyton Duke Of Something
Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
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This should be something to you all, Vel believes that CtP2 is "gem of a game" (quote), and believes it to be deep and strategic .

Now, Firaxis, let's hear if you want to join us .

Velociryx is offline Velociryx
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Apr 1999
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I absolutely do, Solver...enjoyed it immensely (even moreso after playing it modded!)....still on the HD, and I even got my girlfriend hooked....soon as CB is released, we're gonna get back to playing....

-=Vel=-

st_swithin is offline st_swithin
CTP1/2 GODDESS
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Nov 2002
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Let's get together for some lembas, eh? Two or three loaves ought to be enough.



What are you TALKING ABOUT?!? I ate 4 by myself!

Well, I was wrong about the hobbit thing, huh? A wizard shows up exactly when he's supposed to. Whazzup, Gandalf?

st_swithin is offline st_swithin
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Nov 2002
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Oh, and BTW, MrOgre, when did you move back to Venice?

You did it just to drive that fancy car of yours, didn't you? Next thing you know, you'll be hosting Botox parties and comparing liposuction scars with the other Hollywood stars.

stankarp is offline stankarp
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australia
Feb 2002
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On a slightly more serious note, do we have anytime frame on when the code will be released?

ahenobarb is offline ahenobarb
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Nov 2001
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  Old Post 30-07-2003 21:37
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You realize of course about half the SLIC mods people were working on now are pointless. It would be far easier to directly implement them by adding source code.

So is it time to start making a list of the things to be fixed, reimplemented, and added?

In no particular order:

1. remove those hard coded limitations on the number of sprites and so forth
2. Fix the diplomacy model, so that all of the features work.
3. Reimplement the space features
4. Add strategic resources
5. Add colonies
6. allow shifting borders (border expansions ala Civ III)
7. Allow increased vision ranges for units on hills/mountains
8. fix the problem with city trading where you can have so many cities they bleed off the screen
9. add religion as a component to the game
10. ... And ...

Solver is offline Solver
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Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
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Ahenobarb, head over to the CtP2 Creation forum and see our brainstorming and fix list threads .

st_swithin is offline st_swithin
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YEAH!!

0. KILL A*. WORST PATHFINDING ALGORITHM EVER!

3. REIMPLEMENT SPACE!!

10. GUI support. REAL customisable gui features. What we had in there was at best, ad hoc, and at worst, straight up kludge (no offence, MrOgre - we were in a hurry, but the keyboard handling uberswitch was just EVIL.)

11. Rebalance to fight the infinite city sleeze.

12. Lemur settlers.

13. Lembas resource.

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reds4ever is offline reds4ever
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Mar 2001
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  Old Post 31-07-2003 00:18
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You realize of course about half the SLIC mods people were working on now are pointless. It would be far easier to directly implement them by adding source code.



Would n't be more flexible to make SLIC more powerful, rather than make constaints in the source code than could have been done (optionally) with SLIC anyway?

MrBaggins is offline MrBaggins
King

May 1999
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sure, provided that its efficient enough. Certain things you do want (or can only do) in the game engine though...

Pedrunn is offline Pedrunn
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Jul 2001
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reds4ever, Bug fixes requires source code additions. The AI I believe should be done trhough the source code. The same with the Diplomacy. Since those should be totally re-done. But i totally agree with you! We indeed should make SLIC more power to add new features to the game. Specially the power of slic over UI.
But i am not a programmer just a SLICer so what do i know

Peter Triggs is offline Peter Triggs
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Gone Fishin, Canada
Jan 2000
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YEAH!!

3. REIMPLEMENT SPACE!!


Oh, yeah. I seem to recall one of you lot saying "We bit off more than we could chew on that one."

I think Lemurs should take priority over this.

st_swithin is offline st_swithin
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"We are, after all, SLICers ourselves, and tend to think everyine would like to be." -MrFrodo

LEMURS RULE THE ISLAND OF MADAGASCAR!!!!

st_swithin is offline st_swithin
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"We are, after all, SLICers ourselves, and tend to think everyone would like to be." -MrFrodo

LEMURS RULE THE ISLAND OF MADAGASCAR!!!!

Solver is offline Solver
Apolyton Duke Of Something
Latvia, Riga
Sep 2000
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Swithin, space is on our wishlist.

I know you don't like going to CtP forums, but would you please take a look there and say what you think of our ideas ?

Mr Ogre is offline Mr Ogre
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Azeroth
Jan 1970
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I didn't move back to Venice, I just never updated my account.

A* is the only pathing algorithm worth talking about. CTP2 does have some glitches, perhaps, but blaming it on A* isn't fair at all. The algorithm is well known and used in practically every game that needs to have pathing. Any problems are with the data being fed to it or bugs in the specific implementation.

The code for space isn't just turned off or anything simple like that, it's completely gone. Putting a second layer back in would be a major undertaking.

And the question you all really care about, I should have the code from Activision early next week. I just have to strip it and send it back, they'll slap a license agreement on it, maybe put it in a self extracting zip or something, have a coven of lawyers throw it in a cauldron full of chicken blood and subpoenas, let it boil until the full moon, and then finally turn their backs and let it escape.

Solver is offline Solver
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Sep 2000
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Great news, Ogre! Hope that stripping and the other crap won't take too long!

Any chance we will have some comments remaining?

Maquiladora is offline Maquiladora
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Jun 2001
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Second that

Thue is offline Thue
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I made a good part of the pathfinding in freeciv. That was also A*. Seemed like the obvious choice.

I wonder what license they will use. Is GPL too much to ask for?

Somebody mentioned that they needed ctp2 source to be able to see the source of a civ game. I suspect that the freeciv source is much cleaner and therefore a better candidate.

Atahualpa is offline Atahualpa
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Hawthrone
Mar 1999
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