01-08-2003 15:53									#121
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Nah, they're just stripping the b1tching, name-calling, and other unpardonables.

See archives of Civ3 List for ideas of what to put in any Civ-like game… maybe at least we fans will heed our own advice.

	01-08-2003 15:56									#122
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Just out of curiousity, did you guys (st_swithin,Mr Ogre) use MS Visual C++ to code the game?

	01-08-2003 16:34									#123
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What ells has activsion promised

	01-08-2003 16:38									#124
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either



world peace and goodwill to all men



or



nothing

	01-08-2003 16:43									#125
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you will be harbringers of change if this actually happens. beads around my neck i'm dancing with the orangutans of code!

hej da

	01-08-2003 19:30									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Straybow Nah, they're just stripping the b1tching, name-calling, and other unpardonables.

Alas, that is not true. All the comments will be stripped, as Mr Ogre said here:

quote: Here's an update. So far it looks fairly promising, but it still has to go through more people. The annoying part is that the person I've talked to would like all the comments stripped from the code to avoid releasing anything that might hurt Activision's image (most of the concern there is over potential remarks re Microprose and Avalon Hill left over from when it was Civilization: Call to Power) or anyone's personal feelings. I'm sad about that, because there are some funny ones in there, and it'll make understanding it all that much harder. But it's still better than nothing. There's little to no direct financial incentive in this for anyone, and the only alternatives are not doing it at all, or paying someone there, a lawyer most likely, to scan every single comment for legal ramifications, and it is a rather large code base. The whole "Civilization" thing on the first game was a very messy business, so while I'd be with you guys in thinking that concern is pretty silly, I think lots of things lawyers do are silly... until I'm court being grilled by one .

	01-08-2003 19:32									#127
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We'll thats the first job then, re-commenting the code

	01-08-2003 19:38									#128
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quote: Originally posted by MrBaggins Just out of curiousity, did you guys (st_swithin,Mr Ogre) use MS Visual C++ to code the game?

According to my PEiDentifier CTP1 is compiled by Microsoft Visual C++ 5.0 and CTP2 is compiled by Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0, however I have the feeling that I shouldn't trust it too much so confirmation is needed.

-Martin

	01-08-2003 19:40									#129
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.. the offending comments are not in the interests of the outside developer anyway? unless of course they include valuable guides for the coder new to the project that would render it otherwise unreadable. can you flesh out the "unfortunately not" part??

	01-08-2003 19:42									#130
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how deep is the win32 dependency of ctp2? directx / draw / 3d / sound. is there any sense in considering a port to osx / linux?

de/

	01-08-2003 19:54									#131
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CTP1 was ported to linux, so such a port for CTP2 should be possible, at least.

	01-08-2003 20:11									#132
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well boys, my day just gets better and better. this will make many bearded dorks like me extremely happy. of course and fashionable tank girls on OSX...

	02-08-2003 02:25									#133
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I haven't seen Barley around in a long time.

Oerdin, ive been playing multiplayer lost over recent months - played mostly against Toni, Quimby, Anton & Stephogun but those guys all stopped playing over the last month or so. Anyone who wants an multiplayer game send me an email, private message or post in CTP2 lobby.

	02-08-2003 02:27									#134
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Oerdin, you going to the London meet? Im still not sure yet.

	02-08-2003 12:42									#135
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Good news. I just hope they don't get rid of all the comments in the code. Uncommented code is arggg...

	02-08-2003 12:54									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann According to my PEiDentifier CTP1 is compiled by Microsoft Visual C++ 5.0 and CTP2 is compiled by Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0, however I have the feeling that I shouldn't trust it too much so confirmation is needed. -Martin

OK, I'll give you confirmation, MSVC6.0.

Pyaray

	02-08-2003 21:43									#137
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quote: Anyone who wants an multiplayer game send me an email, private message or post in CTP2 lobby.

Cant remember if we played before or not, maybe, but ill be playing plenty again when the rush-buy bug is gone (+ a few other bugs), also PBEM (crosses fingers) if theres people still around that is.

	03-08-2003 14:45									#138
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Actually, I did some compiling on Borland, but I can't remember which version.

	04-08-2003 01:02									#139
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quote: Originally posted by st_swithin Actually, I did some compiling on Borland, but I can't remember which version.

Hm... That probably means you didn't use any VC++ specific macros or tricks in the code. As it stands, I wouldn't mind having a crack at porting the game over to something a little more cross-platform. (I, however, happen to have other business to attend to- Ballistics and Bandits await completion sufficient to put them into beta testing for the Linux version... ).

On a slightly different subject (and addressed to all the CTP2 developers in the forum...)- do any of you know how derivative CTP2's codebase is from the original?

	04-08-2003 20:15									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Svartalf Hm... That probably means you didn't use any VC++ specific macros or tricks in the code. As it stands, I wouldn't mind having a crack at porting the game over to something a little more cross-platform.

I'd like to use gcc. It is not the best compiler in the world on the generated bin quality, but it is a fairly portable one. However, if it compile with Borland bcc, it is probably compilable with gcc.

	04-08-2003 22:02									#141
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quote: Originally posted by edomaur I'd like to use gcc. It is not the best compiler in the world on the generated bin quality, but it is a fairly portable one. However, if it compile with Borland bcc, it is probably compilable with gcc.

I wasn't implying the compiler, per se, more the whole game itself. You see, it's very probably riddled with DirectDraw code, etc. I'm wanting to see it compilable for Linux and MacOS X. Reworking everything to use SDL would do that (And shouldn't be TOO hard if the CTP2 code's moderately derivative- CTP was converted over to SDL with no problems. I can always ask one of the Loki developers about things if needs be- I've got access directly or indirectly to most of them... )