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notyoueither is offline notyoueither
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Turn 98, 610BC Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

To be edited by the Consuls and Ministers.

Status:
- Researching Republic at 100% (5 turns)
- Luxury Slider at 0%
- 60 gold cash, -4 gpt


Urgent questions & tasks
FAM: NAP with CFC being reworked to include agreement regarding GCA, CDG cities, and tech.
All: Do we get Polytheism from GCA, and then currency from the hut?

Unit movement & actions
To be added by MoW

Economy
To be added by MoI

WF:
Poly gets off the game.
Banatopia gets on the game.

Workers:
Worker01: 'Dan' moves 4. Will be completing the ring road (Mingapulco to BigBend)
Worker15: 'Gits' moves 4
Worker04: 'EVC' moves 8 4 1. will be clearing a road to HoD
Worker05: 'Dejon' moves 8 4 1
Worker06: 'MrWIA'moves 9 and irrigates (1) BFC 7
Worker07: 'Rush' moves 9 and irrigates (1) BFC 7
Worker11: 'Horse' roading (1) Bananatopia 4
Worker12: 'Squid' roading (1) Bananatopia 4



Diplomacy:
CDG: NAP/Border treaty (to turn 109).
GCA: NAP in effect (to Turn 130).
CFC: NAP expired. New NAP proposed by CFC thru turn 117
also, see this thread


Comment, please, many "plans" are just suggestions or ideas, not decisions already made.

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Note: keypad directions used for all except in WF orders.

Discussion and basic reporting to follow. See the topped thread for comprehensive results

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BigFurryMonster is offline BigFurryMonster
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Do we get Polytheism from GCA?


Sure, but at what cost? MapMaking or Maths + CoL ?

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Got spare money?

That may just be a copying error - last turn they offered us Polytheism, and we replied with Maths + CoL accepted. We should get it this turn.

I am unhappy about giving them Maths, but if we didn't it would certainly be their next research goal anyway. MapMaking brings it's own dangers with possible landings far from our front lines.

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Just in case the turn comes while I am not around.


Workforce:
Poly gets off the game.
Banatopia gets on the game.

Workers:
Worker01: 'Dan' moves 4. Will be completing the ring road (Mingapulco to BigBend)
Worker15: 'Gits' moves 4

Worker04: 'EVC' moves 8 4 1. will be clearing a road to HoD
Worker05: 'Dejon' moves 8 4 1

Worker06: 'MrWIA'moves 9 and irrigates (1) BFC 7
Worker07: 'Rush' moves 9 and irrigates (1) BFC 7

Worker11: 'Horse' roading (1) Bananatopia 4
Worker12: 'Squid' roading (1) Bananatopia 4

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CGN now has the save; it will be our turn very soon!

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The hut was popped, and inside was...





















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Please see this thread:
Situation with CDG - why they didn't die last turn
http://www.apolyton.net/forums/show...481#post2231398

The turn will be held so that this can be discussed for the next several hours.

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WOOHOO. This is great. Our next luck is what tech CDG is going to get. I hope it's Engineering or Feudalism.

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amazing luck there.

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Diplomacy:
We begin the turn with Polytheism.


Unit movement & actions:
S01 'jagjef' moves 7. Pops hut. Discovers Currency.

G01 'AS Princess of Apolyton' moves 4 1 6
G02 'AS Expedition' moves 2 2 6. Fortify all.

N05 'Enamel' skips turn to rest
N03 'DarkCloud' moves 8

W03 'Alva' moves 2
W12 'Warrior With No Name' moves 8

all other units fortify if not already fortified.


Economy:
Apolyton building barracks (2)
Mingapulco building horseman (3)
Banantopia building temple (5)
Incensity building horseman (4)
Tripoli building barracks (12)
Cuido de Alcohol building walls (14)
Hispanica building temple (19)
Possumopolis building walls (14)
Karina building worker (6)
LuxInvicta building worker (6)
Big Bend building worker (9)
BigFurryCity building to temple (22)
Heart of Darkness set to worker (4, grow in 5)

Work Force:
Apolyton 3-5-14 at start. Change to 3-12-14
Mingapulco 2-3-10-15 at start. NC
Banantopia 1-2-9-20 at start. Change to 1-2-19-20
Incensity 5-6-7-17 at start. NC
Tripoli 17-20 at start. NC
Cuido de Alcohol 19 at start. NC
Hispanica 1-14 at start. NC
Possumopolis 14 at start. NC
Karina 9 at start. NC
LuxInvicta 11 at start. NC
Big Bend 10 at start. NC
BigFurryCity 5 at start. NC
Heart of Darkness 10 at start. NC

Workers:
Worker01: 'Dan' moves 4
Worker02: 'Monkee' mining (2) Bananatopia 2
Worker03: 'panag' mining (3) Apolyton 4
Worker04: 'EVC' moves 8 4 1
Worker05: 'Dejon' moves 8 4 1
Worker06: 'MrWIA'moves 9 and irrigates (1)
Worker07: 'Rush' moves 9 and irrigates (1)
Worker08: 'Yo' clearing (2) LuxInvicta 2
Worker09: 'Calc II' clearing (2) LuxInvicta 2
Worker10: 'Spink' roading (1) BFC 7
Worker11: 'Horse' roading (1)
Worker12: 'Squid' roading (1)
Worker13: 'Otto' clearing (3) Karina 1
Worker14: 'Mark' clearing (3) Karina 1
Worker15: 'Gits' moves 4

Slider:
Science at 100%. -4gpt. 60 gold. Republic in 5.

/Edited to correct worker actions.

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Maybe we should retreat the unit at the eastern edge of our lands. Otherwise, we won't get any barbarians ..!

This is for two reasons:


  • Possible promotions
  • Seeing barbarian hordes will tell us if two civs have entered the next age

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Do we really want eruptions when combat with GCA could be so close?

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I'd say we'd like to keep 'em down to just a few barbs. I don't know how many appear and what influences the number of barbs. Availability of land, maybe?

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Well..at least 2 civs will be the next age very shortly, namely CDG and us. so we have to be ready for any barbs as soon as we we there tech.

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Well..at least 2 civs will be the next age very shortly, namely CDG and us. so we have to be ready for any barbs as soon as we we there tech.


And judging from the Top 5, whichever city controls Arhus (CGN?) has already gone Medieval.

We haven't gotten any notices of barb eruptions, so it's likely they're the only ones in it already.

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Arhus (CGN?)


Yes.

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Vlad is right. CGN is in the Medieval Age.

Prepare for the barb uprisings soon, since it probably won't be long until someone else joins them.

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Our fog-of-war is rather limited, though.

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There's a camp near HoD. Luckily we can use AGA to respond to an uprising pretty quickly.

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Demographics Analysis

Colors match in-game colors (estimates). Known civs are underlined. Apolyton values are bolded.

CGN
GWT
Apolyton
GCA
CFC
Firaxis
Grenouille
CDG

Values This Turn:

GNP (commerce before corruption):
79+, 73, 59, 40, 33, 28, 23-, ?

MFG (shields after waste):
?, 45+, 36, 32, 21, 21, 14-, ?

Important Notes:

It's odd that despite CFC building new cities that their demographics don't rise more. They're actually somewhat lower than they have been in the past, before those 2 cities were built (in addition to new pop in old cities).

Lately Grenouille's score has been wavering. While this could be a result of slowed expansion, it can also be the result of losing cities. In addition, Firaxis' score has continued rising a very steep amount (lots of new cities), which means their demographics must continue rising. However, one position has been low, and has fallen off of what I can calculate (removing all laborers from all cities I can't even find their values).

Given what mongoose said about "whispers of war," it's likely that either CGN or GWT has attacked Grenouille.

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