04-02-2004 04:57									#121
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I don't see the problem with it. It is a perfectly valid game rule, and one I've used without complaints in previous PBEMs of mine.

	04-02-2004 14:40									#122
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They can do it too if they agree . Their fault.

	08-02-2004 00:20									#123
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I think we shoud Mind Control Little Accident if Peace moves additional Crawlers towards the base, we could potentialy steal a lot of nice crawlers this way.

We could also move the 2 Impact Marines back into their transport and move that into a position from which it could attack Atlantis next turn. This could significantly speed up the progress of concouring PEACE and the extra crawlers will make thouse bases far more productive. Its definatly going to be worth the cost so lets make shure we can afford to do it. Scrapping some Navel Yards will help.

	08-02-2004 01:25									#124
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I'll check the mind control cost of both Calico Island and Little Accident before taking any military action.

	08-02-2004 03:02									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac I'll check the mind control cost of both Calico Island and Little Accident before taking any military action.

So this means that Atlantis is still the last base to 'assimilate'? Ok.

	17-02-2004 07:15									#126
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We have a problem. The odds for that boy scout NW of MegaByteVille to defeat that crawler is only 16 to 15. Only about 50% chance of winning thus. Is it worth risking an attack, or should I return the scout to MBV, and leave that crawler for another time?

	17-02-2004 18:20									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac We have a problem. The odds for that boy scout NW of MegaByteVille to defeat that crawler is only 16 to 15. Only about 50% chance of winning thus. Is it worth risking an attack, or should I return the scout to MBV, and leave that crawler for another time?

How about this? Let the impact cruiser in TT bombard that crawler first, and then take a look if the odds are better. If not, the cruiser can still move to Pampalona next turn to support the attack there and the scout brought back to Megabyteville

Let the rover in HMB take out the crawler between HMB and LA. And then move it back to HMB!!
Let the remaining marine next to LA take out the former.

Suggestion for getting rid of those crawlers near LL: Board one of the transporters in HMB with all units we can miss (I'm thinking of the rover, two impact marines, the plasma garrison and the probe) bring it the tile north of LL, let one of the marines attack the 47.65 crawler. Then move the transport in LL and let the other marine take out the other crawler. Then let the transport stay in LL for the attack on Pampalona next turn. I suggest keep that transport in the yard for the rest of the turn because of those missing PEACE ships.

	17-02-2004 20:06									#128
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder How about this? Let the impact cruiser in TT bombard that crawler first, and then take a look if the odds are better. If not, the cruiser can still move to Pampalona next turn to support the attack there and the scout brought back to Megabyteville

Pamplona is a land base, so AFAIK a cruiser can't help much in its capture. I was first thinking to move that cruiser north to help in attacking Calico Island, but that may not be absolutely necessary. It depends on whether PEACE could manage to bring an extra defender to that base.

quote: Let the rover in HMB take out the crawler between HMB and LA. And then move it back to HMB!!

I agree.

quote: Let the remaining marine next to LA take out the former.

I was thinking about the following. Move the remaining marine to Mega Reboot where it can be shipped to Lair and later Pamplona, and move the 40% damaged marine in Mega Reboot to the monolith for an instant repair. That way we have a healthier marine to attack Pamplona, and the other one is faster repaired.

quote: Suggestion for getting rid of those crawlers near LL: Board one of the transporters in HMB with all units we can miss (I'm thinking of the rover, two impact marines, the plasma garrison and the probe) bring it the tile north of LL, let one of the marines attack the 47.65 crawler. Then move the transport in LL and let the other marine take out the other crawler. Then let the transport stay in LL for the attack on Pampalona next turn. I suggest keep that transport in the yard for the rest of the turn because of those missing PEACE ships.

I agree. Though if you agree with the marine switch plan above, one of the crawlers would have to be destroyed by the rover. But that doesn't make much of a difference.

	17-02-2004 20:21									#129
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There is one catch to your plan moving an Impact Marine to HMB (I don't see MegaReboot on the game map yet ). That former near LA is blocking all passage...

quote: Originally posted by Maniac Pamplona is a land base, so AFAIK a cruiser can't help much in its capture.

I now, but again, I like to have an escort for a transport since the chance of encountering a PEACE warboat gets higher the closer we come to their remaining bases. I say, bombard that nasty crawler near Megabyteville and move it afterwards for transport protection to Pampalona. Remember that 1 turn ago one of the boats in Atlantis left. For all that we now it could be lurking somewhere between Pampalona and Atlantis.

	17-02-2004 21:05									#130
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder There is one catch to your plan moving an Impact Marine to HMB (I don't see MegaReboot on the game map yet ). That former near LA is blocking all passage...

I would do it like this. First let the rover destroy the crawler between MB and LA. Then the 40% damaged impact marine can move without interference of zones of control two tiles SW. Then activate the remaining marine on the monolith. Because there is now a unit north of its position, it can move to Mega Reboot without interference of the former's ZOC. Finally move the 40% damaged marine to the monolith, which still has a marine on it, so it can also move there without having problems with the former's ZOC.

quote: I now, but again, I like to have an escort for a transport since the chance of encountering a PEACE warboat gets higher the closer we come to their remaining bases.

There is the cruiser in Liar's Lair IIRC.

quote: I say, bombard that nasty crawler near Megabyteville and move it afterwards for transport protection to Pampalona.

You mean move it to Pamplona MY 2157, when the base should already be conquered?
Anyway, I'll hold a poll about it. Much easier to decide what to do then.

	18-02-2004 06:58									#131
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Remember if we mind control Little Accident First then all units adjacent to the base will fall under our control, if that crawler your so eager to kill is adjacent to little Accident then you will be wasting a valuable crawler if you destroy it.

I think we want the Mammother taskforce to take Pampalon, then we can scrap Navel Yards for a total of 80 credits or more and then mind Control Little Accident. The Impact Marines on the Monolith then load back into the Impaler transport and head north.

We also want to start planning for a transition into FM as soon as possible.

	18-02-2004 16:21									#132
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Impaler: LA is already taken, and that crawler was what, 2 tiles, away from LA, so I don't think it would be converted by a mind probe.

Maniac: The Mammoth task force can only attack Pampalona on 2157 as well, but you're right. I overlooked that Impact Cruiser in LL.

So bombarding the crawler near MBV is now an option of how quick we want to destroy it.

	26-02-2004 04:27									#133
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Maniac, move that cruiser to your proposed position. It will be in range then if Hive gets ideas, and it should still be far enough from possible PEACE ships near Atlantis.

	02-03-2004 03:48									#134
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As Maniac asked, I accepted the war offer from Miriam.
The results are not so surprising.
First, no new drones came up when war was declared, but I immediately got a pop up that the Hive intervened on behalf of the Drones.

	11-03-2004 02:26									#135
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I was wondering, does anyone have the time to start a planetary council session on the issue of:

quote: 8> If PEACE survives, the main advantage you get is a free vote in the Planetary Council. We would like assurances you won't abuse that. Therefore we propose a CPU veto right on all Council motions except all the official in-game ones. This is to prevent you can propose any motion in the out-of-game Council you want, and CPU being outvoted 3 to 2 every time. I would propose a similar veto right for the Hive and Drones to make things equal.

	22-06-2004 21:37									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue Current Issues Hive - their cheating

This is on 1/29/04. What is this about?

	22-06-2004 21:57									#137
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I saw only war postings at 29/1/04 in this thread. Where does this come from?

	22-06-2004 21:59									#138
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I believe that was about Voltaire pumping Coerellian for information about the Peace-Cycon relations.

	22-06-2004 22:01									#139
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quote: Originally posted by GeoModder I saw only war postings at 29/1/04 in this thread. Where does this come from?

Starting post of this thread. Edited by Drogue on 1/29.

Was it about Voltaire trying to get info from Corellion? What exactly did he do?

	22-06-2004 22:17									#140
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First time I see that post, didn't roam through all of it, ya know.

Before my time I'm afraid.

	22-06-2004 23:27									#141
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Yea I hope Maniac or Drogue would know what that is about.

	22-06-2004 23:38									#142
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No idea, can't remember at all Maybe something to do with Kody's turn simulator, or finding bases, or something. Honestly can't remember at all though.

	22-06-2004 23:44									#143
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The first post of this thread is made 12 August, so I assume it must have something to do with Voltaire-Corellion or Kody who observes PEACE-CyCon relations.
The edit 29/1 was done by me as you can see. Most likely I just added those links to all the faction-specific diplomacy threads without bothering to change the rest of Drogue's original message.

	22-06-2004 23:44									#144
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I don't know your forum structure otherwise I would know how to search for relavant posts. There're bond to be some posts if it was an issue at the time. I was just curious.