07-09-2003 13:55									#91
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Civ Manager is a little program that 'knows' the memory locations of Civ2 variables and is thus able to change them in realtime. It is not designed to cheat though. You have the program running simultaneously with civ2 and by clicking in the program you can rush-buy faster (without the incremental procedure) and change production queues.

I do not know how many cities does an average diplogame have, but this proggy saved my life when I played Red Front scenario (dozens of cities). You can get it from somewhere in scenario section, I'll see if I can find a link.

quote: And why in the heck can't you play this game on your Thursday nights

I can do that, but I can't do both tuesdays and thursdays.

	07-09-2003 14:21									#92
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion We can redefine Eiffel to be something meaningful

Like the Tower of London?

	07-09-2003 14:29									#93
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I've tried your scenario deity and it seems nice enough for a good, equal multiplayer game, but we should use world map for this diplogame because of the roleplaying effect.

	07-09-2003 14:34									#94
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I was thinking something practical in game terms, like, the builder of Eiffel gets a free tech from the tech leader, or can't be attacked for a number of turns or something. Eiffel is a long way into the game, we'll think of something I'm sure

	07-09-2003 15:22									#95
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quote: Originally posted by deity What is Civ Manager? And where do you get it? And why in the heck can't you play this game on your Thursday nights

We'll play Thursday nights if you'll play Lonians or Brittanics.

	07-09-2003 15:52									#96
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quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko We'll play Thursday nights if you'll play Lonians or Brittanics.

OK! Done

I'll take one of them!

But Vet says you using world map?

	07-09-2003 15:55									#97
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion I've tried your scenario deity and it seems nice enough for a good, equal multiplayer game, but we should use world map for this diplogame because of the roleplaying effect.

role-playing , hmmm

	07-09-2003 16:34									#98
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I tried the scenario and got beaten by the barbs
The units’ graphics is really interesting, much better than in the original game.

I have one complaint though.
Why haven't you included plumbing?

	07-09-2003 17:06									#99
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I would be happy to play thursdays if that means we could get deity to play as sixth We have to hear about this from our dutch players.

As for map I still think we should go with a nice, big world map.Since we seem to have different oppinions I suggest we have a vote and accept the majority decision. I cast my vote for the world map.

And.. more rules

What about Hut Finder? I was browsing through the civ2 forums and I found this utility. Apparently it tells you where huts and/or specials are hidden.

I may sound like a stone age guy but is this usually allowed in MP games?

	07-09-2003 17:50									#100
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion I would be happy to play thursdays if that means we could get deity to play as sixth We have to hear about this from our dutch players. As for map I still think we should go with a nice, big world map.Since we seem to have different oppinions I suggest we have a vote and accept the majority decision. I cast my vote for the world map. And.. more rules What about Hut Finder? I was browsing through the civ2 forums and I found this utility. Apparently it tells you where huts and/or specials are hidden. I may sound like a stone age guy but is this usually allowed in MP games?

I would prefer playing on a world map of some sorts and to play on tuesday nights.
Come on deity, getting up early on a wednesday is good for you


I have no problem with hutfinder

	07-09-2003 19:16									#101
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I'll be much more reliable on tuesday, than on thursday .

I can't use hutfinder, but I'll find them anyway

I like the fun of exploring a map, but hey: if you don't, I don't mind.

Triremes should sink, but we could do something about the chance they will actually do so.

Eiffel just sucks. Accept it. Or show your might by building it

	07-09-2003 19:47									#102
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Hut finder is a great utility which shows the location of huts, the location of specials (including hidden ones) and oedo years.

Yes, by all means, use it. I won't because I like playing fast; have no time for trivial things like hidden specials.

	07-09-2003 19:49									#103
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If we are going to play on a real world map, can anybody post it here? Or at least direct me to it.
Thanks in advance.

	07-09-2003 20:44									#104
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Ok,

- about hutfinder we have agreed.

- about time, I take tuesdays is settled? See you in two days

- world map vs scenario, germanos you haven't stated your preference on this.

- I take it for the remaining stuff, we play by the rah rules?

And arhem, winzity could you stop by to this thread and say your part too

About world map, I have searched for the HoTW one on their geoticies site but I haven't found it. I have found two large world maps in Apolyton Civ2 Directory.

Deity could you tell us was the map you used fot HotW good for the game, or would a larger/smaller one be better?

	07-09-2003 21:36									#105
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When playing on a world map I'd like to play the Khmer starting in their original place in SE-Asia.

	08-09-2003 02:16									#106
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In that case, we should all pick a starting location. And we need someone to put starting positions on the map, I don't know how to do it.

I'll take south-east europe. Hey, this is first come - first served system, right?
I plan to play as ... Panslavia. Russians did a crappy job in OTL, this time I lead the Slavs to greatness.

I have found these maps: 75x120 map and giga map (254x230) of earth made by Julius Brenzaida. The first one seems ok, maybe a bit small?

The second one is ... weird. It has a huge Antartica, Kamchatka is as large as Europe.. I don't like it. It is pretty big though.

I am sure better world maps are floating around, but does anyone know where to get one?

	08-09-2003 11:41									#107
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quote: Originally posted by atawa When playing on a world map I'd like to play the Khmer starting in their original place in SE-Asia.

Yes, but please let me have this map. Is it a scenario (Khmer)? Could you post this scenario/map? Thanks.

	08-09-2003 11:49									#108
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Any world map will work.

	08-09-2003 12:22									#109
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I found this world map in one of OzzyKP's posts. I hope it's the right one. Ozzy, can you confirm?

Are we going to use this one?

Attachment: realworld.zip
This has been downloaded 7 time(s).

	08-09-2003 15:17									#110
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That map is 91x120. Fine with me

Starting locations have to be altered though. Can you do it ljcvetko?

	08-09-2003 16:27									#111
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The map is fine with me. But Deity's map is fine as well .

I don't really mind which one we take.

	08-09-2003 19:52									#112
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I'll change starting positions and names of the tribes and cities, if you all post the coordinates and related data (names of tribes, titles, lists of cities).

Is it agreed we play on Ozzy's world map?

	08-09-2003 22:06									#113
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I'm fine with this map, 136/68, I'll name city's as I found them.

But can we play with random hut and specials?
As it looks now I have chosen the worst land in recorded history

	08-09-2003 22:43									#114
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Or if we play with specials as is I'll start in NZ

	08-09-2003 23:01									#115
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Ok, I definately want to start in NZ, will be fun islandhopping

I made some minor changes in the map (Mainly changed some jungle on the islands to forrest or grass).

Let me know if you find this acceptable.

Attachment: real world2.zip
This has been downloaded 2 time(s).

	08-09-2003 23:13									#116
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Why not just have a random generated map

	08-09-2003 23:15									#117
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Becouse playing the Maori starting in NZ will make at least my game much more fun to play then Aztec on some island or continent.

	08-09-2003 23:36									#118
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I like the idea of randomized huts and specials though

Put me down somewhere in Holland. And I would like a light color please (white, yellow or lightblue)

	08-09-2003 23:57									#119
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True, but starting on NZ I need some specials at least.

	09-09-2003 00:26									#120
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83,35 - city names as I play.

About randomizing huts and specials, ok with me.