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Shiber is offline Shiber
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Turn 135, 130 AD Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

* General Info
- 597 gold, +188 (at start of turn)

* Military
- Shall we adopt NYE's strategy? (see here)
- Were there always walls around Salamanca? There are now.
- ND MedInf at T-988 (we control T-98).
- Send a medinf to deal with barbs threatening Toledo?
- Transporting: what shall we prioritize? Pikes, Medinfs, Cats, Workers?

* Economy

- Workers at Cyclone and Bolderberg 9 can either move north or prepare to load on galleys, depending on priorities.
- Worker at Sandstorm 6-9 starts mining.
- Worker at Blizzard 2 moves 9.
- Free worker at Arashi 8-9 moves 7-8 and starts mining.
- Workers at Santa Ana 8 move 4 and mine.
- Free worker at WoC 4 mines.

- Sufa laborer working the fur forest moves to a coast tile. (This change and the Typhoon one below will be reversed next turn to let Sufa finish its pike on schedule if WLTCD status changes don't mess my plans up.)
- Typhoon laborer working coast takes over the fur forest.
- One of the mountain laborers in Tempest moves down to an irrigated plains so we stop starving.
- Monsoon laborer working the iron tile moves to the other mined mountain. That lets Dissidentville's new laborer next turn land on the mined mountain. Monsoon changes which irrigated grassland it is working.
- Arashi switches a laborer from an incense hill to the irrigated grassland just vacated.
- Whirlwind switches a laborer from an incense desert to the incense hill just vacated.
- Sandstorm moves its laborers not on flood plains to irrigated desert tiles.
- Hurricane takes over all the plains and works a second mountain to bring its knight ETA down to two turns (albeit running a food deficit again for the moment).


* Diplomacy
- WM from RP received.
- Gift NM to RP (but tell them not to accept it next turn if they know that it'll fall into disorder).
- Gift luxuries to RP.

* Additional info
- Zerigossa (former Zaragoza, under ND rule) is in disorder.

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Shiber is offline Shiber
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Tired of ads?

I'll edit-in any info as soon as I have it. Nathan should do the economy orders.

So, what's the plan for this turn?

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I have the save. Info in top post.

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Tempest is about to starve down to 10 pop.

It can switch a mountain for the plains at 7. Arashi can move from there to an irrigated desert.

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Thanks for the heads up.
Could you edit a note into the top post? Let's make this a habit, it'll help senile players such as myself avoid making mistakes.

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For some reason, I am receiving a no permission message when trying to edit your post.

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When is convenient for you to play the save, Shiber? Perhaps we can chat.
Edit: testing. -Shiber

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I can play in about 16-18 hours...
Please try to resolve most issues by then so we can use our remaining time optimally.

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NYE: I can edit your posts.
Try again.

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I'll be back in ~16 hours. Maybe I can log on earlier from work.

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We get a cat from NM next turn. Better to keep it til then. I have spoken to Arnelos about this.

Gift WM, Furs, Incense, Iron, and some gold (40) to RP We need to see where their cash flow is, but 40 will keep them from losing anything. They will return the unused portion.

We have 6 galleys that can load. 5 of them can get back into range of unloading in Sirocco.
We have 3p(v) 6mi(2v, 4r) and 3 cats that can load. No workers are in range to load this turn.

There are 2 workers near Monsoon, and 2 more near Bolderberg that can move towards embarkation.

The settler coming from Sandstorm is earmarked for?

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Arrian, Theseus?

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I am here. I wanted to catch up before posting my thoughts (I am also STILL alternating this with my replay of AU 208!!)... I will do so in the Beginnings thread.

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Let's get the pikes, the vet medinfs and the cat. Next turn probably any knights, workers and any cats, again avoiding the reg medinfs. Thoughts?

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Economic suggestions posted. I'm not going to try to get involved in the military side of things.

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Military movements: I suggest we let the 2 knights near B heal on the hill (hey, that rhymes! ), move the rest of the stack 4. That is unless we want to use those units to set the perimeter NYE suggested. I think we should push onwards with those units, and create some pressure on GoW's units in the area, by the time they get there (3-4 turns), RP and us will be ready to send some forces against S from the other side, and perhaps finally out manuever GoW (that is, if they stay there ).

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Great Nathan, thanks!
Guys: how many workers do we want to load to Bob during the next set of turns? Will the ones from Cyclone and Bolderberg-9 do?

Zeit: I don't have the save in front of me. If we move to B-44, can we keep the slowmovers cover? If so, I like it.
The knights returning from the area of Toledo can defend the area of NM or reinforce Pamplona.

Shall I send a single vet medinf to kill the barb warrior and destroy his camp? I remind you that we're on chieftain and we have the GW, so one medinf should be enough even if more warriors pop out of that camp. We can also keep that medinf around in the FoW'ed jungle in case more barbs show up to threaten Toledo (but I'd still like to reconnect the mountain road to Toledo before we give it back).

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That camp was already destroyed- perhaps we could catch whoever did it... or maybe not.

The knights near B- I think we should let them heal, or something, unless of course we feel they are at any risk on while staying on that hill without cover (I don't think so, but still).

I'd also say a yes to moving the knights near P- the reinforcements from Stormia could handle the defence perimiter NYE suggested, but in the meantime, we need more forces, mainly fast movers around Pamplona, if we want any chance of counter attack some time soon.

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We've already used up our 24 hours.
I need someone else to play the turn. I'm not so fit to play it at the moment... sorry.

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We'll get it done, Shiber. Take care of yourself.

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Thanks.
But nevermind, I'll get over it. Loading up PtW...

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I've changed my mind again
I don't think I can go on. NYE or someone else, please take it from here.
I'm sorry guys. RL is hectic and my head is spinning. I wish my day had a few extra hours.

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OK. This is what I propose to do with the units in the active theatre.

2p fm P 9 9 6 to P 9 6
1p fm P 6 6 to P 9 6
1p fm P 6 6 to P 6 3
4c fm T 2 2 to NM 1 OR P 9 6

5k fm NM 2 to NM 1 (can counter-a at barca 4 or join knights by Pamplona)

Barca army fortifies

2p, 1c fm Barca 8 to Barca army and fortify

mi fm z 6 6 to z 6 6 6

p on T 8 9 fortify

p and mi fm Toledo move 8

p and mi fm Toledo move 6

Knights near Pamplona?

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Why put units in the jungle north of Toledo?

Can we put some kind of threat at Valencia88?

Gimme a sec on the Knights at Pamplona...

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Re the Knights... is there a logical spot to the west/south of Pamplona that:
* keeps us on friendly roads
* is a mountain, hill, or jungle
* positions us to assist in the defense of Pamplona, scoot back north and east if need be, and threatens (or seems to) enemy cities or forces?

(sorry, hard to tell from screenshots)

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Why put units in the jungle north of Toledo?

ND may be taking a pop at our pike on the mountain. Would like to have a surprise waiting for them if they get lucky.

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Wouldn't they then equally have a shot at our jungle troops?

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Can we put some kind of threat at Valencia88?

We have 2 wounded knights.

Are they going to settle in down south, or concentrate around Pamplona?

We could better take the coastal cities by boat, yes?

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Wouldn't they then equally have a shot at our jungle troops?


No. They have an mi 8 of the mountain. We have a pike on the mountain. The pike and mi would be 1 of the mountain.

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quote:
Originally posted by Theseus
Re the Knights... is there a logical spot to the west/south of Pamplona that:
* keeps us on friendly roads
* is a mountain, hill, or jungle
* positions us to assist in the defense of Pamplona, scoot back north and east if need be, and threatens (or seems to) enemy cities or forces?

(sorry, hard to tell from screenshots)


yes to your first 2 points. NM 1. It does not threaten any enemy cities though.

Are you getting the save?

 
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