28-08-2003 20:08									#1
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You can find the rules for the Champions League predictions here. UEFA just performed the draw for the first round. Please post your predictions for Champions League winner, topscorer and group winners and runners-up before the start of the first group matches. Here are the eight groups:

Group A:
FC Bayern München (GER)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
Celtic FC (SCO)
RSC Anderlecht (BEL)

Group B:
Arsenal FC (ENG)
Internazionale FC (ITA)
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS)

Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
PSV Eindhoven (HOL)
AEK Athens FC (GRE)
AS Monaco FC (FRA)

Group D:
Juventus FC (ITA)
Galatasaray SK (TUR)
Olympiacos CFP (GRE)
Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP)

Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
Rangers FC (SCO)
VfB Stuttgart (GER)

Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
FC Porto (POR)
Olympique de Marseille (FRA)
FK Partizan (SCG)

Group G:
S.S. Lazio (ITA)
Chelsea FC (ENG)
AC Sparta Praha (CZE)
Besiktas JK (TUR)

Group H:
AC Milan (ITA)
RC Celta de Vigo (ESP)
AFC Ajax (HOL)
Club Brugge KV (BEL)

And the matches for week 1:

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille
FK Partizan - FC Porto
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio
AC Milan - AFC Ajax
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo

The current standings in the Champions League prediction game:

code:
 1 Zopperoni          61
 2 Locutus            60
 2 MikeH              60
 4 Paul               57
 5 Yaroslav           51
 6 OneFootInTheGrave  43
 6 Wernazuma III      43
 6 Fergus Horkan      43
 9 Sloth              41
10 Wille              40
11 Kitschum           35
12 Solver             32
12 Azazel             32
14 Winston            31
15 Eli                13

Last edited by Paul on 29-08-2003 at 01:47

	28-08-2003 20:11									#2
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My predictions:

CL winner: Ajax
Topscorer: Van Nistelrooy
Group winners:
A: Bayern
B: Inter
C: Deportivo
D: Juventus
E: Manchester
F: Real
G: Chelsea
H: Ajax

	28-08-2003 20:11									#3
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Winner: Juventus
Top Scorer: Van Nistelrooy

Group A:
FC Bayern München (GER)

Group B:
Internazionale FC (ITA)

Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)


Group D:
Juventus FC (ITA)

Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)

Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)

Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)

Group H:
AC Milan (ITA)

	28-08-2003 20:12									#4
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	28-08-2003 21:35									#5
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CL winner: Juventus

Topscorer: Ruud van Nistelrooij (Man Utd)

Group winners:
A: Bayern
B: Arsenal
C: Depor
D: Juve
E: Man Utd
F: Real
G: Chelsea
H: Milan

	28-08-2003 21:39									#6
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Do you all have to copy all my predictions (except CL winner and group H winner)? Be more original.

	28-08-2003 21:39									#7
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I didn't see your predictions when I posted mine. Van Nistelrooy is obvious as top scorer because his record is a goal a game in the last two seasons and ManU normally do well. The other group winners seem fairly obvious.

	28-08-2003 21:43									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Paul Do you all have to copy all my predictions (except CL winner and group H winner)?

...and Group B winner.

	28-08-2003 22:04									#9
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Right, I had missed that one. So you are a bit more original. But as Mike said, most of them are fairly obvious.

And here are my predictions for the matches in week 1:

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 2-0
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 3-1
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 2-0
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 2-2
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 1-2
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-1
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 2-0
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 2-1

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-1
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 3-1
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 2-0
FK Partizan - FC Porto 0-0
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 1-2
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 1-1
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 1-1
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 1-1

	28-08-2003 22:27									#10
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Winner: Real
Top Scorer: Van Nistelrooy

Group A:
FC Bayern München (GER)
Group B:
Internazionale FC (ITA)
Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
Group D:
Juventus FC (ITA)
Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)
Group H:
AC Milan (ITA)

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 1-1
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 1-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 1-1
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 1-1
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 1-3
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-0
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 3-0
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 1-0

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 2-1
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 3-0
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 2-0
FK Partizan - FC Porto 0-1
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 1-3
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 0-1
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 1-1
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 1-1

	28-08-2003 22:51									#11
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CL winner: Real Madrid
Top scorer: Van Nistelrooy

Group A: FC Bayern München
Group B: Internazionale FC
Group C: RC Deportivo La Coruña
Group D: Juventus FC
Group E: Manchester United FC
Group F: Real Madrid CF
Group G:Chelsea FC
Group H:AC Milan

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 2-1
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 3-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 2-0
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 2-2
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 1-1
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-0
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 3-1
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 2-1

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-1
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 3-0
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 3-1
FK Partizan - FC Porto 1-2
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 2-2
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 1-0
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 0-2
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 1-1

	29-08-2003 01:51									#12
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I just realized that we decided that we would predicted not only group winners but also the second-placed teams in the group. So please also post your predictions for which teams will finish second in the groups. My predictions:

A1: Bayern
A2: Olympique
B1: Inter
B2: Arsenal
C1: Deportivo
C2: Monaco
D1: Juventus
D2: Galatasaray
E1: Manchester
E2: Panathinaikos
F1: Real
F2: Olympique
G1: Chelsea
G2: Besiktas
H1: Ajax
H2: Milan

	29-08-2003 02:04									#13
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Top scorer: Ronaldo (Real Madrid)

CL Winner: Real Madrid

Group A:
1. FC Bayern München (GER)
2.RSC Anderlecht (BEL)

Group B:
1. Arsenal FC (ENG)
2. Internazionale FC (ITA)

Group C:
1. RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
2. PSV Eindhoven (HOL)

Group D:
1. Juventus FC (ITA)
2. Galatasaray SK (TUR)

Group E:
1. Manchester United FC (ENG)
2. VfB Stuttgart (GER)

Group F:
1. Real Madrid CF (ESP)
2. FC Porto (POR)

Group G:
1.Chelsea FC (ENG)
2. S.S. Lazio (ITA)


Group H:
1. AC Milan (ITA)
2. AFC Ajax (HOL)

	29-08-2003 02:07									#14
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Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 1-1
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 2-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 1-0
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 3-2
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 2-2
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 2-1
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 2-0
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 3-1

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-2
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 3-0
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 2-0
FK Partizan - FC Porto 1-1
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 2-2
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 0-1
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 2-1
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 3-1

	29-08-2003 15:46									#15
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CL winner: Real Madrid
Top Scorer: Ronaldo

A:
1. Bayern Munich
2. Celtic

B:
1. Arsenal
2. Internazionale

C.
1. Eindhoven
2. Deportivo

D.
1. Juventus
2. Real Sociedad

E.
1. Manchester
2. Stuttgart

F.
1. Real Madrid
2. Porto

G.
1. S.S Lazio
2. Chelsea

H.
1. Milan
2. Ajax

	29-08-2003 20:00									#16
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My predictions for the group runner-ups:

Group A: Olympique Lyon
Group B: Arsenal
Group C: PSV
Group D: Galatasaray
Group E: Panathinaikos
Group F: Olympique Marseille
Group G: Lazio
Group H: Ajax

	30-08-2003 00:24									#17
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Group A:
FC Bayern München (GER)
Celtic
Group B:
Internazionale FC (ITA)
Arsenal
Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
PSV
Group D:
Juventus FC (ITA)
Galatasaray
Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Stuttgart
Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Porto
Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)
Lazio
Group H:
AC Milan (ITA)
Ajax

	30-08-2003 00:36									#18
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Group A:
FC Bayern München (GER)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)

Group B:
Arsenal FC (ENG)
Internazionale FC (ITA)

Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
AEK Athens FC (GRE)

Group D:
Juventus FC (ITA)
Galatasaray SK (TUR)

Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Panathinaikos FC (GRE)

Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Olympique de Marseille (FRA)

Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)
AC Sparta Praha (CZE)

Group H:
AC Milan (ITA)
AFC Ajax (HOL)

	30-08-2003 03:39									#19
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My prediction for Group winners:

Group A:
FC Bayern München (GER)
Celtic FC (SCO)

Group B:
Internazionale FC (ITA)
Arsenal(ENG)

Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
PSV Eindhoven (HOL)

Group D:
Juventus FC (ITA)
Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP)

Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)
VfB Stuttgart (GER)

Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Olympique de Marseille (FRA)


Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)
Besiktas JK (TUR)

Group H:
AC Milan (ITA)
RC Celta de Vigo (ESP)

	30-08-2003 23:35									#20
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Champions League winner
topscorer

Group A: Winners Celtic R/Up Bayern
Group B: Arsenal Internazionale FC (ITA)
Group C: Deportivo Monaco
Group D: Sociedad Galatasaray
Group E: Manchester VfB Stuttgart (GER)
Group F: Real Madrid Olympique de Marseille
Group G: Chelsea Lazio
Group H: AC Milan Celta de Vigo

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 2-1
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 1-2
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 1-2
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 3-1
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 0-1
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-1
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 1-1
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 2-0

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-1
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 3-0
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 2-2
FK Partizan - FC Porto 1-1
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 0-1
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 1-0
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 2-2
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 0-1

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Group A:
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)

Group B:
Internazionale FC (ITA)

Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)

Group D:
Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP)

Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)

Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)

Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)

Group H:
AFC Ajax (HOL)

And the matches for week 1:

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 2-1
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 1-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 3-1
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 1-1
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 0-2
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-0
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 1-1
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 4-0

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-0
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 2-0
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 3-1
FK Partizan - FC Porto 1-1
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 1-2
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 0-1
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 1-1
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 2-1

	02-09-2003 14:50									#22
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OK as I didn't do second places or match predictions here they are again:

Group A:
FC Bayern München (GER)
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)

Group B:
Internazionale FC (ITA)
Arsenal FC (ENG)

Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
AS Monaco FC (FRA)

Group D:
Juventus FC (ITA)
Galatasaray SK (TUR)

Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Rangers FC (SCO)

Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
FC Porto (POR)

Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)
S.S. Lazio (ITA)


Group H:
AC Milan (ITA)
AFC Ajax (HOL)

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 1-0
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 1-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 1-0
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 1-0
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 0-1
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-1
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 2-1
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 2-0

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-0
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 3-1
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 3-1
FK Partizan - FC Porto 1-2
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 1-3
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 0-2
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 1-0
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 0-1

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Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 2-0
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 1-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 2-0
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 2-1
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 1-1
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-1
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 2-0
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 2-1

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-0
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 2-1
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 2-0
FK Partizan - FC Porto 1-0
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 1-2
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 1-0
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 1-0
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 1-2

	14-09-2003 16:51									#24
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The first round starts on Tuesday. Don't forget to post your pre-season predictions and match predictions.

Some people have posted incomplete pre-season predictions. I have made a list with what I still need from those people:
Fergus Horkan: CL winner and topscorer
Sloth: Group runners-up, CL winner and topscorer
Yaroslav: CL winner and topscorer

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May I join in?

If yes those are my predictions:

CL Winner: Juventus
Top Scorer: V. Nistelrooy

Group A:
FC Bayern München (GER)
Celtic FC (SCO)

Group B:
Arsenal FC (ENG)
Internazionale FC (ITA)

Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
PSV Eindhoven (HOL)

Group D:
Juventus FC (ITA)
Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP)

Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Panathinaikos FC (GRE)

Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
FC Porto (POR)

Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)
S.S. Lazio (ITA)

Group H:
AC Milan (ITA)
AFC Ajax (HOL)

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 2-1
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 2-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 1-1
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 2-1
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 0-3
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-0
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 3-1
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 2-0

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-0
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 3-0
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 5-1
FK Partizan - FC Porto 1-2
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 0-3
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 1-2
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 2-0
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 1-1

Saluti

	15-09-2003 11:38									#26
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OK as I didn't do second places and cup winner

Cup winner: Chelsea
Top scorer : Crespo

Group A:
Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)
Bayern (GER)

Group B:
Internazionale FC (ITA)
Arsenal (ENG)

Group C:
RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
AEK Athens (GRE)

Group D:
Real Sociedad de Fútbol (ESP)
Juventus (ITA)

Group E:
Manchester United FC (ENG)
Vfb Stuttgart (GER)

Group F:
Real Madrid CF (ESP)
Porto (POR)

Group G:
Chelsea FC (ENG)
Lazio (ITA)

Group H:
AFC Ajax (HOL)
Milan (ITA)

	15-09-2003 23:40									#27
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	15-09-2003 23:48									#28
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CL Winner: Juventus FC (ITA)
Top Scorer: Ruud van Nistelrooij (Manchester United FC)

Group A:
1. FC Bayern München (GER)
2. Olympique Lyonnais (FRA)

Group B:
1. Internazionale FC (ITA)
2. Arsenal FC (ENG)

Group C:
1. RC Deportivo La Coruña (ESP)
2. AS Monaco FC (FRA)

Group D:
1. Juventus FC (ITA)
2. Galatasaray SK (TUR)

Group E:
1. Manchester United FC (ENG)
2. Panathinaikos FC (GRE)

Group F:
1. Real Madrid CF (ESP)
2. FC Porto (POR)

Group G:
1. Chelsea FC (ENG)
2. S.S. Lazio (ITA)

Group H:
1. AC Milan (ITA)
2. AFC Ajax (HOL)

Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 2-0
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 2-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 1-0
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 1-1
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 0-1
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 1-1
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 2-0
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 2-1

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-0
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 3-0
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 2-0
FK Partizan - FC Porto 0-1
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 1-2
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 0-1
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 2-1
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 0-1

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Wednesday, 17-09-2003:
Olympique Lyonnais - RSC Anderlecht 2-0
FC Bayern München - Celtic FC 2-0
FC Dynamo Kyiv - Lokomotiv Moskva 1-1
Arsenal FC - FC Internazionale 2-2
AEK Athens FC - RC Deportivo La Coruña 0-2
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco FC 2-0
Juventus FC - Galatasaray SK 2-1
Real Sociedad de Fútbol - Olympiacos CFP 2-1

Tuesday, 16-09-2003:
Rangers FC - VfB Stuttgart 1-0
Manchester United FC - Panathinaikos FC 4-0
Real Madrid CF - Olympique de Marseille 3-0
FK Partizan - FC Porto 0-1
AC Sparta Praha - Chelsea FC 1-2
Besiktas JK - S.S. Lazio 0-2
AC Milan - AFC Ajax 2-1
Club Brugge KV - RC Celta de Vigo 0-1



Damn, I agree with Locutus on several occasions .

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Why is that a bad thing? Only means more points for you...