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Eli is offline Eli
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"Another one bites the dust" -Yasser Arafat.

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Posted on Sat, Sep. 06, 2003

Abbas plans to resign, Palestinians say
Prime minister may think move could force hands of U.S., Israel
JAMES BENNET
New York Times

JERUSALEM - Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian prime minister favored by the Bush administration and Israel as an alternative to Yasser Arafat as an agent of Middle East peace, plans to announce today he is resigning, four senior Palestinian officials say.

Late Friday, some Palestinian officials were trying to persuade Abbas to change his mind. He has previously threatened to quit without following through.

But associates of Abbas said he had concluded there was no other way to break what has become a crippling cycle of confrontation and compromise with Arafat and other leaders of the dominant Fatah movement. This way, the associates said, Arafat, under international pressure, might feel forced to bring back Abbas, or another prime minister, with guaranteed authority.

"It's the only way forward," a senior Palestinian official said. "We basically have come to a dead end here."

In the current stalemate between the two Palestinian leaders, Abbas is demanding full control of all the Palestinian security services. But Arafat, the president of the governing Palestinian Authority, has balked at yielding it.

The senior Palestinian official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Abbas faced days of debate about the security issue in the Palestinian Parliament, followed by a likely but temporary compromise that would only again postpone the confrontation with Arafat. Abbas appears to be calculating that his resignation will compel not only Arafat but also Israel and the Bush administration to take bold steps to save the peace effort.

Palestinian legislators have said Bush administration officials warned them in recent days that if Abbas' government collapsed, the White House might walk away from the peace plan, known as the road map. Israeli and Palestinian officials view the administration as increasingly distracted by the occupation of Iraq and the coming presidential campaign.

The Parliament is scheduled to meet today in closed session in the West Bank city of Ramallah to consider the standoff between the men. Abbas was expected to announce his resignation at midday, also in Ramallah. It was not clear whether he would do so before the legislators.

Some officials said Abbas was shaken by the appearance at the Parliament building on Thursday of masked men, who pounded on the doors and condemned his leadership. Dozens of young men demonstrating outside the building chanted that Abbas' security minister, Muhammad Dahlan, was a collaborator with the CIA.

Further eroding Abbas' confidence, 18 Palestinian legislators moved for a no-confidence vote to be taken on Abbas' government. That vote has not yet been scheduled.

Abbas appeared to be motivated mostly by a decision that a rude jolt was needed to revive the peace effort.

The Bush administration has refused to deal with Arafat since June 2002, acceding to Israel's policy of isolating him.

Reluctantly, Arafat appointed Abbas prime minister in the spring. After a fierce legislative battle over the extent of the prime minister's authority, Abbas was confirmed by the Parliament on April 29.



http://www.charlotte.com/mld/observer/news/6705296.htm

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Did Schwarzenegger give him the "Resign or be fired!" line or what?

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The IAF just missed Sheik Ahmed Yassin in Gaza. He's lightly wounded.

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Well, at least Ismail al-Henia appears to be dead.

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****. we missed both of them.

well, at least no casualties of civilians.

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I dont get it. The dude is an 80 years old paraplegic in a wheel chair, how on earth could they miss him?

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timetables, eli, timetables.

He just sati in the car when they struck the building.

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Arafats time needs to end. Do what you need to do Israel.

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I'd like that in a written form, PLATO.

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I dont get it. The dude is an 80 years old paraplegic in a wheel chair, how on earth could they miss him?


Yeah, my confidence in the IDF is going down....

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Eli, I've been wondering how it can be so hard to kill a guy like Yassin for years anyway.

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Maybe they don´t want to kill him - just give warnings like the Mafia does. You know, amputating fingers and stuff - always one at a time

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I'd like that in a written form, PLATO.


If it was up to me, you would already have it

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BeBro -

Should I study Neuere & Neueste Geschichte (HF) with Politikwissenschaft (NF) and Philosophy (NF) at the Humboldt one and live in P'Berg or Politikwissenschaft (HF) and Geschichte (2. HF) at Potsdam and live in central Potsdam? P'Berg is slightly more expensive, but the WG there is better (nice people) than in Potsdam (one guy, very camp).

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Anyway, kudos to the EU foreign ministers on agreeing to blacklist Hamas in it's entirety.

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what's kudos?

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what's kudos?


Congratulations and approval with implication of support all rolled into one

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The Humboldt uni has the best reputation (some Profs are even advisors of the government) but is OVERCROWDED as hell. I didn´t believe it before I saw it, but esp. in politics you sit with hordes of other students in some courses - that can really be annoying. In history it is similar but not that serious since there are more courses to choose.

Don´t know the uni in Potsdam, but from hat I´ve heard it is not that overcrowded.

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Uni Potsdam - 8000 Students in 1998, 16000 Students in 2003 or something like that

Maybe as a Humboldt person it'd be easier to find good Praktika in government offices / ministries and thus jobs later on with a politics and history degree than do all that in Potsdam.

I mean who wants to do Praktika or an assistant job in a Landesregierung?

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If it was up to me, you would already have it



reminds me of that 'military aid' discussion we had.

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"I mean who wants to do Praktika or an assistant job in a Landesregierung?"


I know one guy has made it in the Bundestag. But you cannot choose where or for which party - maybe you end up as coffee making guy for Angela Merkel

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With my genetic qualification? Un-possible!

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Anyway, kudos to the EU foreign ministers on agreeing to blacklist Hamas in it's entirety.


Shame on France for sitting on their pompous backsides until now. "If we find that Hamas and Islamic Jihad are indeed terror groups opposed to peace, we may have to change the EU's stand. However, we must not limit ourselves to one, clear-cut, position." indeed.

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Better late than never. The vote WAS unanimous ( though this is only a preliminary decision, it is a decision.)

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I didn't even know the Hamas network still gets money from us.

never knew it has more than a terrorist section anyway...

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CNN is saying that Arafat has accepted Abbas' resignation.

 
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