06-09-2003 18:24									#1
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            Recent events remind us that racism remains rampant. Yet we can easily end racism through understanding and education.

            People must realize that God created all humans from one couple, thus making the entire human race one large extended family. God says:“ O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord who created you from a single soul (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife (Eve); and from the two of them He spread abroad a multitude of men and women” (Qur'an 4:1).

            Furthermore, we must understand that no race is superior to another. We appreciate a garden having many different flowers because we realize that each adds something to the beauty of the entire arrangement. This is why we do not object to the color of any flower. In a similar way we can see the world as a garden decorated with people of different colors. Let us appreciate that each variety of people contributes something to the spice of life in this world. God says:“ O mankind! We have created you male and female , and have made you nations and tribes that you may know each other. Verily, (start w/this word). The noblest of you in the sight of Allah*, is the most pious (righteous) of you” (Qur'an 49:13).

            The noblest are the most obedient to God. Such persons may belong to nay race or country. What really matters is their conduct and behavior. The prophet Mohammad* publicly declared that Arabs are not superior to non-Arabs, and one color is not superior to another. In a day when light-skinned people could not imagine a black person as their leader, the prophet appointed a black person Usaamah, the son of zaid, as a leader.

            As a result of following these teachings, many people have banished racism from their thoughts and actions. You can still see racial harmony today in the mosques of cosmopolitan cities. You will find people of various colors worshipping together, all with equal status before God. Rich or poor, black or white, kind or pauper all line up side by side to worship. No special preference is given to anyone based on color or social status. The leader in a mosque is appointed for his learning in the religious sciences, regardless of skin color. There is no such concept as a 'black mosque' or 'white mosque'. Islam removes such destructive concepts.

	06-09-2003 18:26									#2
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Actually, I think there were rather more than just one couple....

	06-09-2003 18:40									#3
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muslim racial harmony indeed. Just like during the slave trade.

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rina = nutter

	06-09-2003 18:49									#5
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Welcome back CivNation! Didn´t know you converted to Islam

	06-09-2003 19:28									#6
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DL!!!!

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rina's a rather persistent DL, unfortunately....

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Doubt crawls in. Doubt that she's not a DL.........




















nah.

	06-09-2003 19:38									#9
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Yes, all men are equal under Islam. Unfortunately women are not. It's perfectly OK to be racist to unbelievers under Islam too.

Let's think back to the Civil Rights movement in the States, shall we? I always find it very interesting that the man who preached racial harmony and tolerance was Christian (Martin Luther King), while the ones that spread theories about racial supremacy and hatred (Elijah Mohammed) were Muslims.

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And that shows that a religion's creed has nothing to do with the creed of its members

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Who to end racism? - Massive interracial breeding So, get out their and do your civic duty and have sex with other races (not species, we need to keep it clean)...

Once we all are browin-ish yellow then we abolish all forms of religion and disban all political parties...

Then, we will all be happy.

	06-09-2003 21:30									#12
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Brave New World already answered most of Japher's suggestions, but the part about interbreeding is pretty much correct. If interracial relationships continue to rise, racism is naturally doomed to failure. It's happening slowly and gradually, but within three centuries it's gonna be pretty hard to get away with hate crime, to say the least. If five men in white sheets are spotted setting a cross on fire in front of a black guy's house, and there are only thirty 100% caucasians in the state, half of whom are twelve or younger, the list of suspects is rather slim...
And Rina is actually totally correct. Mohammed did not discriminate at all, as he realized the truth that all people, regardless of race, had sexy daughters for him to marry and money to give to his cause. Half of Mecca was made up of his blood relatives, much more than "extended family," and he had a lot of them killed, so cut the crap, eh? His tolerance was a sign of his pragmatism. Like People of the Book like me, who were not oppressed but merely overtaxed so our refusal to convert worked to the economic gain of Islam anyway. This is not to say that Islam is evil, but cut the gibberish already. It's bad even by Poly standards.

	06-09-2003 21:30									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Japher Who to end racism? - Massive interracial breeding So, get out their and do your civic duty and have sex with other races (not species, we need to keep it clean)... Once we all are browin-ish yellow then we abolish all forms of religion and disban all political parties... Then, we will all be happy.

Damn right. Only a fool would limit themselves to one race. Ya gotta work the statistical probability of getting laid.

	06-09-2003 21:33									#14
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Also, you could end religious hatred by converting the entire world to Mormonism. But tell me, would that be much of a solution?

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So I guess bisexual is the way to go?

	06-09-2003 21:37									#16
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Bisexual and interraciality for the world would solve most if not all social problems.

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God loves all his children equally, but that doesn't mean they are all exactly the same. Your race is not what makes you you.

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Way to end racism? Kill all racists and all babies who got the racism-gene.

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quote: Originally posted by rina             People must realize that God created all humans from one couple, thus making the entire human race one large extended family. God says:“ O mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord who created you from a single soul (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife (Eve); and from the two of them He spread abroad a multitude of men and women” (Qur'an 4:1).

First, prove this to be true. Considering there is abundant evidence contradicting the ol' Adam & Eve fairy tale, and nothing besides religious belief supporting it, I'd say that will be a tall order.

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quote: Yes, all men are equal under Islam. Unfortunately women are not.

Actually they are. Read the last words of Muhammed.

quote: It's perfectly OK to be racist to unbelievers under Islam too.

If you discriminate against unbelievers, then it isn't discrimination by race (racism) is it?

quote: Let's think back to the Civil Rights movement in the States, shall we? I always find it very interesting that the man who preached racial harmony and tolerance was Christian (Martin Luther King), while the ones that spread theories about racial supremacy and hatred (Elijah Mohammed) were Muslims.

I also find it interesting that the ones who wanted to keep the blacks down the most were Christian as well .

Jeez, the ignorance is so think you could cut it with a knife .

	06-09-2003 22:28									#21
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Even the bible provides evidence against the assertion that Adam and Eve were the first humans when it tells of how Cain went into the land of Nod to get himself a wife. Where did this wife come from if Adam and Eve were the only humans around?

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I am rina. Ban my TCO name and leave my rina apparition.

	06-09-2003 22:33									#23
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Cali,

Well, you have to remember that Adam lived for over 900 years. It stands to reason that he bore hundreds of children, and quite possibly some of them would have branched out a bit. Most likely, Cain went to Nod to marry his sister. Yes, this is nasty today, but back then, presumably the gene pool wouldn't have been as polluted.

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Kill all the KKKers and nazis.

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quote: Originally posted by David Floyd Cali, Well, you have to remember that Adam lived for over 900 years. It stands to reason that he bore hundreds of children, and quite possibly some of them would have branched out a bit. Most likely, Cain went to Nod to marry his sister. Yes, this is nasty today, but back then, presumably the gene pool wouldn't have been as polluted.

Don't you think this would have been mentioned in the bible considering all the attention that is given to geneology later on? Sorry, but that explanation just doesn't cut it for me because it is completely made up with no biblical evidence to support it.

Let's assume Adam and Eve really were the first humans though...how do you explain the emergence of different races?

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I don't know about you Imran, but most of the women I know wouldn't like the 'equality' that would be afforded to them under an Islamic society. And when I mean Islamic, I mean one of those countries like Iran under the 'enlightened' rule of the imams.

Ok, I'm not too sure about whether discriminating against unbelievers is the same as racism, I'll have to check my dictionary for that.

Um, Imran, the fact that the United States population is predominantly Christian would probably have something to do with the fact that they oppressed the blacks the most.

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quote: Don't you think this would have been mentioned in the bible considering all the attention that is given to geneology later on? Sorry, but that explanation just doesn't cut it for me because it is completely made up with no biblical evidence to support it.

Stipulate that the Bible is true. Given that stipulation, you must believe that Adam and Eve were the first humans. Logically, then, Cain married a sister - or possibly a niece or something like that.

Stipulate the Bible isn't true. Cain didn't go to the land of Nod to find a wife, therefore we aren't having this discussion.

If you want to argue from the Bible, though, my explanation is the only one which can be correct. If you want to argue the Bible isn't true, go ahead, that's another debate, and it's fairly irrelevant as to our specific question.

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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Let's assume Adam and Eve really were the first humans though...how do you explain the emergence of different races?

Wasn't the Tower of Babel meant to be one explanation? While it doesn't explicitely say God created different races, it can be inferred by his other actions.

Of course, many argue that the "Mark of Cain" is dark skin, i.e. all dark-skinned peoples are descendants of Cain. This is nonsensical, however, because if you take the Bible at face value, God slaughtered everyone except Noah and his family during the Flood, so its from them that all humanity would share its origin...

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quote: Originally posted by Odin Kill all the KKKers (like Cali) and nazis.

What a retarded thing to say. To assume I support the KKK or nazism simply because I believe in racial differences is ridiculous. I would never support violence against anyone because of their race.

You have absolutely no reason to make such an accusation, and so I will treat it as a personal attack. Please retract this statement.

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Possibly Noah's wife, or the wives of his sons, were of a different race?