15-09-2003 00:38									#61
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Nah, this is the sorry swedish centre that used to be the left and now spends it time selfishly squabbling over national economics and personal petty cash.

	15-09-2003 00:39									#62
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Okay.

	15-09-2003 00:41									#63
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We can at least hope that the government overrules the outcome as they did with the right hand traffic...

But I guess they won't.

	15-09-2003 00:43									#64
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why are they even having the referendum though? Didn't the cheif of the EUor central bank say the british policy of wait and see was the best one?

	15-09-2003 00:45									#65
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Our great and stable currency, the Krona, just sunk like a rock on the currency market.

Btw, I voted Yes, if you didn't figure that out

I guess this referendum just confirmed that Swedes are stubborn Nej-sayers...

	15-09-2003 00:45									#66
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quote: Originally posted by Gramphos We can at least hope that the government overrules the outcome as they did with the right hand traffic... But I guess they won't.

That took 8 years.

	15-09-2003 00:46									#67
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well our policy is based on the fact that if a vote was held tomorrow, the yes camp wouldn't stand a chance. so blair will wait until it looks like he just might have a hope of winning it and then we'll finally get a chance to vote. ain't our democracy great :/

	15-09-2003 00:49									#68
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The results can be explained easily: Swedes came for holiday in Greece, saw everything having a 100% raise after the euro and said: "We won't be as dumb as the Greeks".

And they were right.

	15-09-2003 00:49									#69
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quote: Originally posted by C0ckney well our policy is based on the fact that if a vote was held tomorrow, the yes camp wouldn't stand a chance. so blair will wait until it looks like he just might have a hope of winning it and then we'll finally get a chance to vote. ain't our democracy great :/

The idea that britain would consider voting yes is ludicrous

besides, the Tories will be in before then and (hopefully) hold the refarendum cos the are sure of getting a 'no'.


Anyway, by the time britain is ready to go in, the EUro will prolly have fallen appart and people re pulling out of it

	15-09-2003 00:50									#70
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It's over - The NO side won by far.

	15-09-2003 00:50									#71
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Well, they haven't published the numbers from Carlshem yet. Bucks efforts might still turn the tide.

	15-09-2003 00:51									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie It's over - The NO side won by far.

yay!

	15-09-2003 00:52									#73
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man why are they even having the referendum though? Didn't the cheif of the EUor central bank say the british policy of wait and see was the best one?

I think that the result will delay a possible adopting of the Euro for some years. When the question is taken up again the government might decide to join without having another referendum, or hold another.

THe thing is that overriding the result probably would be bad for the ruling parties.

But I still hope they will do so, but I doubt they will. The no-result means that therewill take some years before the question gets up again.

If Sweden get's into a new lbad economical time it's possible that the opinion will change, but most of the No-voters thinks that the current system is working good, and don't want tot try something new.

Howver, I suspect that the Euro will be used more and more unofficially parallell with the Krona with the no outcome.

	15-09-2003 00:53									#74
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Göran Persson currently admits his loss at a press conference

	15-09-2003 00:53									#75
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This result sucks

	15-09-2003 00:54									#76
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Well, they haven't published the numbers from Carlshem yet. Bucks efforts might still turn the tide.

They have now, Apparently compared to Carlshem East I managed to move the result an entire percent on my own.

Weirdest result by far:

http://www.val.se/val/emu2003/resul...able_2521K.html

Check Jounosuando.

	15-09-2003 00:56									#77
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man The idea that britain would consider voting yes is ludicrous

which is why we haven't had or even talked a date for a vote yet

	15-09-2003 00:57									#78
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quote: well our policy is based on the fact that if a vote was held tomorrow, the yes camp wouldn't stand a chance. so blair will wait until it looks like he just might have a hope of winning it and then we'll finally get a chance to vote. ain't our democracy great

It's based on a lot more than that..

	15-09-2003 00:57									#79
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Oh well, I guess I'd better put out the fire from my burning Swedish banknotes which I thought would become obsolete now...

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	15-09-2003 00:58									#80
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Only two counties had a yes majority. Skåne (where I live) and Stockholm.

	15-09-2003 00:58									#81
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I thought the end result would be a lot more close than this. Weird.

I'm on the 'winning' side. Never happened before, feels stange.

	15-09-2003 00:59									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue It's based on a lot more than that..

no, not really. the decision is a political, not an economic one.

	15-09-2003 01:02									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie Only two counties had a yes majority. Skåne (where I live) and Stockholm.

For a while I was hoping it'd only be Stockholm, would have fuelled my plans for secession from all the country yokels.

	15-09-2003 01:02									#84
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quote: the decision is a political, not an economic one.

The politics and economics are linked. The politics aren't right at the moment and neither are the economics. That the government is signalling its intent to take the economic issues seriously by delaying a referendum now, they add credibility to when the time comes that the economic conditions are more favourable to joining.

When the economics are right, it will become a lot easier to persuade people to vote yes.

	15-09-2003 01:03									#85
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I see intellectual snobbery from some middle-class city dwellers is alive and kicking in Sweden!

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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Yeah. They'll keep voting until they get the required result. Look at the Irish.

That´s the idea. Let them vote over and over again until they give in

	15-09-2003 01:06									#87
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Works both ways, a lot of people on the other side would probably be very glad to get rid of Stockholm City.

	15-09-2003 01:09									#88
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PA, well i think if blair seriously thought he could win a vote on the euro he would hold one tomorrow regardless of the economics.

	15-09-2003 01:13									#89
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Look at those hippies at the No camp dancing on TV!

	15-09-2003 01:15									#90
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Hrmph!

At least with this result you're spared the rioting.