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Monk is offline Monk
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First exit polls suggest Sweden will reject the Euro Get a bigger avatar today!

51,8% yes, 46,2% no or so they say.

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Did I get my numbers right? I'll double-check to make sure. I just turned on Sverige 2 and I think it's really cool you guys have a sign language channel for the night. It's a very considerate thing to do.

Also, I learned foreigners could actually vote in this election if they lived in Sweden. That's a good idea. I think.

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Isn't it better with a more general title for the thread? No point in starting new threads for every single report.

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Krop,

Yeah, maybe the name should be "General Swedish referendum chat" or something like that. If a moderator sees this he can change it as he pleases. I didn't really think it through that much, I just didn't want to post Euro stuff in the Anna Lindh thread.

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The first reports shows that 75% votes no after 3 out of almost 6000 districs have been counted. Doesn't say much though. The small districts are often in the northern inland parts with a small and hostile population.

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Krop,

I'm not refering to any actual counting of votes as much as the SVT-vallokalsundersökning and those are usually pretty accurate. Even though I'm not jumping to any conclusions just yet.

EDIT: Oh, sorry, I was a bit quick there. Had to read your post once more to understand that you understood me.

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Yeah, I know. However, exit polls are not that accurate as it's an inferior method. But one the other hand, the population of 7000 is quite good.

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Nice to see that my english is greek to you.

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Can anyone sum up the pros and cons of each position?

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well joining the euro you get to have an economy like france and germany, so surprisingly enough people voted no

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I've just heard the figure of 51.5% No and 46.5% Yes, too. Another figure was told on Euronews, but it was corrected immediately as being false.

Do you guys have your official results at 23:00 ?

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... with a small and hostile population.


Hostile

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Pros:
Better integration in the European market, easier to export your competitive goods in the European market, convenience when you travel in Europe, furtherment of the European construction.

Cons:
Easier to have your uncompetitive products be overran, make huge economic concessions so that France and Germany may waste them, basically be forced to follow the stinking EU economic model, and be forced to drop the great Swedish economic model.

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The final result won't be done until sometime tomorrow, when the last postal votes are counted, but, as long as I've lived that haven't changed the result mush.

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Nice turnout that you have so far. IIRC, all our major EU referendum had a pathetic turnout

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2/3 are against the Euro with 10 % of the districts counted.

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I take it you want the YES to pass ?

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Did you Swedes see the Copenhagen interview with Thøger Seidenfaden? He said there's a good chance there won't be a domino effect where the next Danish referendum will be influenced by the Swedish decision. He presented a possibility of the Danes actually voting the other way because we yearn to be special!

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BTW, should we take Estonia's yes for granted now, or is there any chance the estimates are completely wrong ? Do we have any Estonian who'd know ?

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The "Yes" is slowly gaining on "No" by every update. It's like the classical election night. The screen starts out as bright red and the issue at hand is how blue it can turn before all the votes have been counted.

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Yes, the Northen areas with smaller districts usually give strange weighted first results.

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I was thinking the same thing. Are you watching the graph they've got that shows the Nay vote losing 10% since they started out? It's not even remotely over yet.

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And 4104 votes have already managed to give invalid votes. Impressive!

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Those guys were the Danes. They couldn't find the "Maybe", "Partly" and "A little bit but not too much" options.

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And 4104 votes have already managed to give invalid votes. Impressive!

How many do you think made them invalid by purpose.

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How cool is that?

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I demand a recount.

 
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