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johndmuller
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Capitol Hill, Colony of DC
Feb 2001
time: 00:31
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You might want to do some scorched earth stuff with the land and sea formers that are trapped in our old territory - i.e. un-terraform some stuff.
OTOH, it might be just as good to disband/destroy them to save a few buckaroonies at Liar's, where they are currently being supported from.
Same possibilities apply to the former near Sealurk (plus Herc's idea or using it for intel and the riskier alternative of trying to rescue it with the booty-boat). I guess I would be in favor of ditching it and saving the maintenance cost.
Please do something constructive (for a change) with the formers on HMB - that road at (37,69) was the next best thing to useless (and recommended against several times); perhaps foresting that tile as long as your're there; if we already had that forest, we wouldn't have an underutilized crawler and an imminent underutilized worker.
Build Barques at Pamplona and Atlantis and at HMB next time - although we also need to build defensive probes ASAP (yes, I'm a broken record about that - at the very least, build one at Accident and send it to HMB). Noone addressed the question of whether there is an in-port defensive penalty with the barques, but they are otherwise a much better bet than the Dock Patrols as they cost the same and have the added benefits.
The new Colony Pod at Calico, if we manage to build it, can supposedly leave the seabase without a transport if there is already another unit ashore where it wants to go. I imagine that this is a programming oversight rather than an intentional feature, but I believe that it is legal to do it and our situation is desperate enough for me. So, you should continue moving the rover to get it to whereever it needs to be in (hopefully 2 turns). Given that the forest at (58,42) should finish next turn, we should produce just enough mins to be able to finish it if we don't spend our money anywhere else and if you shift the worker to that tile instead of (56,44) now, or next turn at the latest.
I'm in favor of whatever trades and deals that can be made.
Last edited by johndmuller on 21-01-2004 at 10:01
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johndmuller
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Capitol Hill, Colony of DC
Feb 2001
time: 00:31
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(after looking at the midturn)
Too bad we got that (not independent) rover from the pod (I suppose), now it will take an extra turn to produce the CP from Calico unless we get extra $ from somewhere else; I should have given you a rabbit's foot for Christmas.
Put =Stockpile Energy= in the queue at HMB instead of the Dock Patrol (extra free energy upon completion of the Barque - only if =Stockpile Energy= is the sole item in the queue when a unit completes).
Put =Stockpile Energy= in the queue at Liar's instead of all that stuff (same reason).
Put =Stockpile Energy= in the queue (or just take remove the Dock Patrol) at Accident (similar reason, although when building facs the =Stockpile Energy= is inserted into into queue by default if it is empty; non-empty queues after facs don't get the free energy).
Maybe this extra energy will be enough to be able to rush the CP next turn after all.
Other bases should have it in the queue too, instead of those extra build items, but as they are not completing next turn, it is not urgent, but you might as well get it out of the way lest it get forgotten. (begin diatribe) Personally, I wish they had fixed the 'feature', especially as the current consensus seems to be to go out of the way to reap the undeserved benefits despite the fact that it is an obvious bug, rather than make the same effort to avoid taking advantage of the exploit (or even the least effort intermediate policy of refraining from intentionally inserting it after units). (end diatribe)
Last edited by johndmuller on 22-01-2004 at 00:56
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johndmuller
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Capitol Hill, Colony of DC
Feb 2001
time: 00:31
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Looks like we are being steamrolled in the war; I don't hold out much hope for avoiding extinction, although If we might be able to get away with a CP, although I don't see the logistics working out too well, unless someone gives us a lot of P's of E to build a Sea Colony.
As to the turn:
I would rush the CP at Calico with all 13 of our P's of E;then see if we could get a SeaCP built there somehow to sail into Hiveland with. Move the rover at (60,44) to (57,43) - the new CP should be able to disembark from the SeaBase onto that tile - it could then proceed to (59,41) for a new base site. After building that we base, we could pop that pod at (58,40), having put first put the best military unit possible into the build queue hoping to get it for free. I don't know if we could survive any better on that island than on HMB, and I don't know how we could get away to Hiveland from there unless they help with financing and/or transportation, but ...
I doubt that we can do anything useful on the west, although we may be able to occupy them a little longer on that front as Accident is not on the coast and we might get a shot of our own in after they start their attack. With a lot of luck, we might be able to build a Sea Colony at Atlantis - perhaps getting it for free if it were in the queue when we pop the pod at (37,55). Or we could switch to a regular CP and try to get away with the transport before they come for us there (unlikely to happen soon enough, but ...).
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Hercules
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in Tir Na Og
Sep 2002
time: 05:31
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Some ideas combine with JDM.
At Pamplona, rush Barque, sell energy bank
L'il Accident
In design workshop, design laser squad,( Is that Dock police)
Put Laser squad in Q, then pop sea pod
If successful, then place another laser squad in queue (next turn after Stockpile), sell rec com facility.
If ecs from sea pod, pop other pod near Li'l Acc with crawler
Convert nutrient crawler ( 35,69) to min crawler
If ecs total 100 + try Miriam to buy non linear.
At HMB sell rec com
Build laser squad ( 2-2-1)
move former into base as another unit to defend
From Atlantis change build to sea colony pod
Then pop pod at 37,55 with disciplined schooner. If successful then get ready to run asap Sea Cp towards Hive territory Also if succesful , after Stockpile in queue place party boat in queue next turn with view to rush with cashing crawlers. Still aim to get Non linear. if we purchase non linear then maybe HEC.
If no luck with completion of sea colony pod at Atlantis, move transport to 43.53 allowing us to pick up rushed cp next and/or head to Calico
At Calico do more or less as JDM suggests maybe sell facility and rush Cp sell pressure dome
Depending on other outcomes try to avoid popping pod at 58,40 until next turn.
Disband former attached to Atlantis and move Pamplona former to base.
Next turn we must be prepared to send our maps and tech to the Hive.
Will ask Hive for Biogene. We need to send Doc Ini to Hive so that they can build protective sea craft to assist us
Last edited by Hercules on 29-01-2004 at 06:35
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Makahlua
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Republic of Texas....er I mean the 28th state in the Union ^^
Sep 2002
time: 23:31
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edit ; my bad, shall we try that again?
Last edited by Makahlua on 06-02-2004 at 09:50
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johndmuller
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Capitol Hill, Colony of DC
Feb 2001
time: 00:31
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First, my main reason for posting was that I found it really hard to believe that the Cycon would have the balls to complain about anyone else's ethics in this game.
Second, I was not particularly aware that the Cycon were playing the PUT turns - I thought that Tass had recruited GT to help Archaic - but given Archaic's recent difficulties, I'm not surprised - though I do find it strange that the powers that be would favor/permit such an arrangement (as it can't really be undone in the future given the way we pass the turns in the open).
Third, I didn't send any PM's to Tass regarding the odds (or any other matter).
Fourth, on the question of whether or not the the combat results of that battle were intentionally faked or were the result of reloads - I would have to say that would be a pretty serious (not to mention insulting) charge to levy; I for one am certain that Cap'n Maki is not a cheat.
On the question of whether her Alphax.txt was unknowingly adjusted in the fashion you describe, that would be for her to answer, but while it is of course possible for her to have innocently done something along those lines, it seems unlikely that she would both have modified it in the first place, and then gone ahead and used it in a PBEM in the second. I've done a bit of experimenting with the .txt files and I wasn't even sure that there was such an adjustment (for non artie combat) without looking it up.
I never really looked at this turn in question (but I think I probably will before this back and forth is done), but on the surface it seems less likely that you could go 50 tries without winning at 3 to 4 than that Cap'n Maki would happen to win on those odds in 1 try.
Your test sounds pretty convincing too, except it certainly belies the supposed odds - perhaps there is some quirk of the random number generator that is locking you into a subset of the possible outcomes - have you tried varying some of your sequence - like making some other attack first (if we have enough units to make that possible) to change up the randomization process, or moving something into fungus or whatever else might roll the random number dice an extra time?
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15-01-2004 18:40
I don't care if it's 'permissable' it still seems very dishonorable and unjust so I'm glad the time for that option has passed.
Cycon accusing us of cheating!
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