11-10-2003 22:30									#1
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$150,000,000,000

The total amount of money Bush has requested for the reconstruction of Iraq, including past granted requests and the current request.

Thats money that could be spent on improving the United States of America had Bush not decided to get a stick up his rear and "liberate" Iraq.

Thats money that WE are going to pay for.


WTF!?

	11-10-2003 22:33									#2
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thats like conquering another civilization in CIV2, buying all of the city inprovements up to the modern times and then moving the troops out so they can have it back!

	11-10-2003 22:41									#3
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Dont worry you will still be able to exploit the other
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	11-10-2003 22:42									#4
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I wonder why I have this feeling: "The bigest problem to the US is the Bush administration...."

	11-10-2003 22:46									#5
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quote: I wonder why I have this feeling: "The bigest problem to the US is the Bush administration...."

Probably because you're a stupid foreigner who knows jack **** about America.

	11-10-2003 22:50									#6
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I assume you voted Bush.
Tss Tss Tss

	11-10-2003 22:53									#7
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You assume wrongly, as usual. Stupid Eurocoms...

	11-10-2003 22:58									#8
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Just don't mess with kids

	11-10-2003 23:01									#9
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You are the one loosing 150Bn, Lol

	11-10-2003 23:06									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us thats like conquering another civilization in CIV2, buying all of the city inprovements up to the modern times and then moving the troops out so they can have it back!

Man, killed your own thread with a civ2 comparison before anyone even replied.

	11-10-2003 23:07									#11
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Bush is doing the right thing though. He is taking the responsibility. You did bomb Iraq, even if it was to topple Saddam. They can't rebuild themselves that much. So, the one who came should also rebuild IMO. So I think Bush is correct. I think allies should chip in too though.

But anyway, I think this is the right way, but I don't know about those figures, if it's too much or not. But those kind of things are super expensive, so I figure it's about right. But that is lots of money... phew!

With that money, our country would run for 100 years.

	11-10-2003 23:07									#12
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well, not 100.. but many years!

	11-10-2003 23:09									#13
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I guess that money-flooding is the only way to prevent Iran from seizing power in all the middle-east

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quote: Originally posted by Space05us $150,000,000,000 The total amount of money Bush has requested for the reconstruction of Iraq, including past granted requests and the current request. Thats money that could be spent on improving the United States of America had Bush not decided to get a stick up his rear and "liberate" Iraq. Thats money that WE are going to pay for. WTF!?

The only possibly good thing I can say about this is that this will ultimately lead to these bozos getting thrown out of office.

Absolutely piss ****ing poor . These *******s saddle the states with unfunded mandates for homeland security and infrastructure improvements, telling us to "sacrifice" while they piss away that much money in the butt ****ed egypt known as Iraq.

Absolute worst presidency in my 32 year old life, and I cant wait for this living nightmare to end.

	11-10-2003 23:26									#15
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But sure, that's a whole lotta money.. if it was us who had to come up with that money, we'd fall in two seconds.

	11-10-2003 23:30									#16
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What $87 Billion looks like: http://www.crunchweb.net/87billion/

With Bush's proposed $166 Billion at the bottom of the page.

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	11-10-2003 23:31									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Space05us thats like conquering another civilization in CIV2, buying all of the city inprovements up to the modern times and then moving the troops out so they can have it back!

I've done that.

Except for culture generators, of course.

	11-10-2003 23:32									#18
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Our national budget is like 4 billion dollars, a year.

Well, come on, Iraq does have to be rebuilt, doesn't it? There are people there, and millions of them - and they all deserve to live in a decent country with access to everything that civilized people have access to. They don't deserve to live in a ruined country, do they?

	11-10-2003 23:33									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: I wonder why I have this feeling: "The bigest problem to the US is the Bush administration...." Probably because you're a stupid foreigner who knows jack **** about America.

That's funny, cause I happen to agree with him

	11-10-2003 23:45									#20
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The Emperor Fabulous - proves half his point!

	11-10-2003 23:47									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: I wonder why I have this feeling: "The bigest problem to the US is the Bush administration...." Probably because you're a stupid foreigner who knows jack **** about America.

Um.. what is the biggest problem then?

	11-10-2003 23:48									#22
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Some things to point out.

(1) The $150B figure is $125 for the military and $25 for reconstruction;
(2) The vast majority of the $150B goes to Americans, creating jobs for Americans in the process;
(3) $150B is not much money to fight a war with our standing, professional army;
(4) Our military is being modernized in the process;
(5) We have been spending money, time and potential lives bombing Iraq for 12 years prior, which will cease; and
(6) This expense is non-recurring.

	11-10-2003 23:49									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Um.. what is the biggest problem then?

A helicopter shortage

	11-10-2003 23:50									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Our national budget is like 4 billion dollars, a year. Well, come on, Iraq does have to be rebuilt, doesn't it? There are people there, and millions of them - and they all deserve to live in a decent country with access to everything that civilized people have access to. They don't deserve to live in a ruined country, do they?

That's the problem. Wolfowitz and gang got up before Senate and gushed about how much of this would be self-financed through oil revenues. And none of it is in the form of loans, which it should be.

	11-10-2003 23:51									#25
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker The Emperor Fabulous - proves half his point!

I'm neither a foreigner nor do I fall into the "knows jack **** about america" category

	11-10-2003 23:52									#26
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Half right.

	11-10-2003 23:57									#27
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if he didn't send any money, everyone would moan that he isn't doing enough to help the iraqi's reconstruct

	12-10-2003 00:09									#28
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mmm, oh so high-and-mighty skywalker, allow me to bow to your omnipotent presence

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	12-10-2003 00:09									#29
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man if he didn't send any money, everyone would moan that he isn't doing enough to help the iraqi's reconstruct

Different people are opposed for different reasons. But apparently (If DanS is to be believed) barely any of it is actually going to Iraq anyways.

	12-10-2003 00:12									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Osweld Different people are opposed for different reasons. But apparently (If DanS is to be believed) barely any of it is actually going to Iraq anyways.

that is the problem in iraq right now. The US needs more troops and needs to start sending in private reconstruction companies, who also take in their own security firms