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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
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*EDIT* Okay I need to indulge in a little Tamerlin like spleen venting here.
John Eales, Eddie Jones, Rudi Straeuli (and regrettably Jacques Brunel who should know better) - SHUT YOUR HYPOCRITICAL MOUTHS!
Finbar can find out what the anti-Pom mob has been saying for you - I'm too damn angry
But I will give the last words to Neil Back who said the criticism of England was "borne out of fear" while England forwards coach Andy Robinson insisted that his pack was "very legal".
Bit desperate isn't it Finbar - wheeling out Nobody to help launch yet another SH coaching attack on referees with a view to making life suit only SH sides? It's getting tedious quite frankly. Respect to the ABs for keeping totally out of it. |
I have no idea what you're talking about. I imagine something has been said somewhere. I'll have a look around.
Edit. I've since found the report. Frankly, I've wondered the same thing about Back's positioning at the back of the maul. He's rarely bound, he sort of hovers there. Presumably, with Clive having complained loudly that Joe Roff's try was illegal - while, hypocritically, using decoy runners himself - it's been decided that all's fair in love and war. I can't comment on the lineout observation because I haven't noticed it.
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I know the question may sound stupid but how do you know the postcount... |
It tells you in the column beside the thread title! 
That aside, I have to inform the thread that, up until the end of the last thread - "Crunch Time" - we have totalled 5,976 posts since we started our first dedicated rugby thread. Shame on you all for wasting so much precious time and even more precious cyberspace!
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:31
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Originally posted by Havak
He is always bound, but does change hands as he makes himself busy looking to break off either side. |
No, he's not always bound.
Yes, if he's not bound.
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Yup – still kind of about it! |
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I was annoyed – I may have exaggerated it a little.  To be honest Jones does get to me sometimes – a hugely unsuccessful International coach he has no problem telling referees and even the IRB how things should be changed and/or policed – he gets my goat at times and to be joined in criticism by a former player I respect greatly – well that just disappoints me. |
Time to put things into context. Channel 7 has a Tuesday night WRC show during which games are analysed, and, amongst other things, a fancy video screen is used to examine and analyse various interesting tactical bits and pieces. John Eales, whose turn it was as analyst, used the screen to illustrate how Neil Back several times wasn't bound. Not that he was moving the ball from one hand to another. He had the ball under one arm and wasn't bound.
The point was raised with Eddie at a media event a day later. On the evidence provided, Eddie agreed with Eales.
Cue a certain retired tighthead with a high forehead to suggest that, obviously, Eddie had organised for Eales to highlight the situation before organising to have someone ask him it about the next day. 
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I don't understand why he has joined the fray... the said illegal tactic, and it is certainly not an illegal one, is a common occurence in the French and English championships where mauls are still in use. |
It most certainly is illegal. The laws require you to be bound to the maul, otherwise you are being shepherded. Shame on you for condoning such illegality!
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"I didn't feel England were as confident as some people said they would be. Even against us, they seemed at times to have doubt about their game and to be over-careful about every move," Saurel said.
"I think they are so much under stress that they are going to be scared stiff before every game and I don't think you would be able to get a smile from (coach) Clive Woodward even if you bought him a bag of tickles." |
The Georgia coach enters the mindgames fray! 
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Andydog
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Jan 2001
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How does someone, in a matter of weeks, go from such quotes as these about South Africa:
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The bitter twisted Welsh turncoat wrote:
It is all very well hundreds of ever-hopeful Kiwi fans lauding their team (no doubt, among them are hundreds of Kiwi fans who savaged their team until recently). Yet as the All Blacks prepare for a lap of honour in their two home Tri-Nations matches, I have to ***** some of the general euphoria by pointing out that a team led by my late grandmother would also have taken the crown this season, without breaking sweat....
....But we must remember the abject surrender of the opposition teams in the last few weeks, and judge the All Blacks only when they have beaten a proper international rugby team, rather than the washed-up Wallabies and the sad Springboks.... |
To quotes such as these:
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The bitter twisted Welsh turncoat wrote:
Maybe, in what will be a fantastic contest with shuddering hits and massive tensions, the team that keeps the coolest collective head will win....
....What impressed me about South Africa against Uruguay was the pace and conviction with which they went about things. Not since the era of Nick Mallett have the Springboks played with clarity in their gameplan, but considering this is a team in its formative stages they gelled well.
Their back row was very upright, but the return of Corné Krige will give them a low-level battler alongside Joe van Niekerk and Juan Smith and while their front five did not appear to have so much sheer footballing ability as their English counterparts, they then have a nice combination of grunt, and energy in the loose.
Richard Bands, in outward appearance, is an old-time farming-stock Bokke prop, but defences do have a habit of opening in front of him as he thunders on his way. Bakkies Botha and Victor Matfield are willowy enough and dextrous enough to pose a threat to the England ball in the line-out......
...England should just about do it. I have never shared much of the rampaging optimism which has swept England ever since they thrashed the Springboks by 50 in the English winter of 2002. The impetus of the draw, and of impending humiliation, can make up for so many Springbok weaknesses. It could even be that if England do win and do motor on to take the title itself, then events at Subiaco on Saturday will be seen as their hardest hour-and-a-half. In a week of major margins, it is hard to see this as anything other than a narrow squeak. |
Just quietly, it sounds like someone's starting to sh!t himself and might be realising his previous quotes are going to bite him fair and square in the arse! Stephen Jones's last thread of journalistic integrity… meet toilet… I'm sure you'll make a wonderful couple!
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16-10-2003 18:19
I had Mrs Havak, Finbar and Caligastia in mind when I created this thread title.
Are your ladies complaining yet fellas?
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I mean I, as a player, bet the Stade Francais.
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