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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
To the best of my knowledge, anyone can license the AAC format if they so desire. |
No -- licenses are granted at the will of the company that holds them. In order for other device makers to play iTunes files, they need to acquire a pricey AAC license (probably not an issue), but then they also need to acquire a license for Fairplay, which no one but Apple has managed to do (how odd is that! This means only Apple products can play iTunes file! How odd is that! Oh, wait, that's what Apple wanted all along. Coincidence?)
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It's source code is also available, which makes it "open" according to some definitions. |
Eh? What source code? It's a standard, not a program.
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It isn't "free" like Ogg, but that isn't a requirement to be "open" according to some definitions. |
If AAC is "open", so is WMA.
The fact is neither of them are open, and both of them are proprietary.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:31
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Who said Apple controlled AAC?
Dolby controls AAC (hence Dolby), Apple controls Fairplay (and don't give me that 'some other company developed it' crap -- Apple farmed it out, which is standard fair)
It's kinda funny how your "arguments" keep slipping lower and lower. Not only do you avoid all of the pertinent questions people ask you which are fundamental to your position, you resort to either having an elementary-school level of reading comprehension or you intentionally fib to misrepresent my cases, then call me a fibber. 
Come to think of it, this really reminds me of elementary school behavior.
Agathon plugs his ears and chants "lalala I can't hear you", Mr Nice Guy should be pretty obvious, and you constantly misrepresent cases, ignore important parts, then call people "fibbers".
If I didn't know better, I'd say Macs are perhaps time machines for people's personalities.
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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:31
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Vanila AAC is the standard, not the modified Apple version used in the iTunes Music Store. I never claimed otherwise, so this is an obvious attempt on your part to deflect attention from the fact that you lied yet again a few posts up. |
I said AAC was not an open standard, AAC is obviously a standard.
That wasn't me lying a few posts up, this is you lying right here. 
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You tried to make it look like Apple was using a non-standard AAC format as the base upon which they grafted Fairplay, when in fact they are using MPEG4-AAC and adding some DRM on to it. |
Apple is using a non-standard AAC format because they corrupted it with DRM so it is not compatible with AAC ISO-compliant players.
This isn't difficult, Drake.
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Jesus, this is why I can't stand debating with you. |
Why, because you don't seem to comprehend what people say and twist everything I say and say I said things I didn't say, then call me a liar?
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Every ****ing post is filled with inaccuracies (at best) and outright lies (at worst). |
Only yours...
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The worst part is that you won't ever admit you're wrong, even when caught. You just try to change the subject and go on like nothing happened. |
I'm not wrong. That's the point.
AAC isn't an open standard.
MPEG4-AAC is an ISO standard.
Apple doesn't use MPEG4-AAC, it uses its own MPEG4-AAC derived codec that is incompatible with MPEG4-AAC compliant decoders, which is precisely why it is suddenly proprietary.
Why must you make this so difficult?
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