30-10-2003 03:40									#211
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc It's not a troll and if you have the same problem on a bike you shouldn't be using one either.

Sitting in my house being afraid of cars is not a viable option.

	30-10-2003 03:48									#212
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But if a cross on the side of the road is enough to make an atheist motorist drive like crap than what happens when they pass a church, or turn on the radio, or answer their cell phone, or see a billboard!!!

It's a poor excuse, that's all.

Personally, I am tired of people complaining about things they find "offensive".

	30-10-2003 03:53									#213
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Sitting in my house being afraid of cars is not a viable option.

It doesn't sound like you are afraid of cars. It sounds like you find road signs such a terrible distraction that you are unable to do pay attention to the road after seeing them.

	30-10-2003 04:15									#214
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc It doesn't sound like you are afraid of cars. It sounds like you find road signs such a terrible distraction that you are unable to do pay attention to the road after seeing them.

You are supposed to smile when you troll.

	30-10-2003 04:15									#215
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quote: Originally posted by Stuie Surely you mean "Señor Francisco".

Los Angeles would become what? Just "Los"?

	30-10-2003 04:20									#216
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La Ciudad de Los.

	30-10-2003 04:28									#217
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara You are supposed to smile when you troll.

If only I was. Your own hysterical ranting on this subjet point to your poor ability to filter out distraction on the road.

	30-10-2003 04:41									#218
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Why is it conservatives never get the difference between wanting to be protected from yourself and wanting to be protected from someone else.

As I have made abundently clear, I am afraid of others, who take their eyes off the road and cause accidents. I have a right not to be squished by these people. They don't have a right to squish me. Anything which makes it easier for them to be distracted, and thus run into me, is therefore, bad.

	30-10-2003 04:47									#219
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quote: Why is it conservatives never get the difference between wanting to be protected from yourself and wanting to be protected from someone else. As I have made abundently clear, I am afraid of others, who take their eyes off the road and cause accidents. I have a right not to be squished by these people. They don't have a right to squish me. Anything which makes it easier for them to be distracted, and thus run into me, is therefore, bad.

These crosses are NOT a significant hazard, or at least are not the most significant hazards. There are MANY things which are MUCH more hazardous that can be done away with just as easily. Thus, the real point of this is to target these religious symbols specifically.

	30-10-2003 04:54									#220
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Why is it conservatives never get the difference between wanting to be protected from yourself and wanting to be protected from someone else.

Because it is a stupid arguement to make. You honestly can not tell me with a straight face billboards and what not pose a signifigant hazard to traffic.

PS If you can, you have more self-control than I do because I couldn't get through it without laughing.

	30-10-2003 05:54									#221
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara It's under the 1st Amendement, the part about not being able to establish religions, which means no religious displays can be put up on public property. Crosses have been specifically forbidden by every court ruling for the past 30+ years.

This is silly. The idiocy is not paid for with public funds and is generally unknown to formal authorities. The only laws that could reasonably be applied to this are those dealing with littering.

Yes, that opens the can of worms that could lead to people smuggling in scenes of baby jesus and the sheep with gigantic you-know-whats onto government lawns around the time of the Winter Solstice, but I frankly find that unlikely.

	30-10-2003 06:10									#222
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Calm down, Che. You are getting trolled brutally by Mr.Fun.

	30-10-2003 06:51									#223
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What if someone went to the roadside marker of a deceased individual and put something hateful? Should that be removed?

If you agree to the removal of that, than why not the removal of the positive momentos. Who decides what is acceptable and what isn't?

From a strictly literal interpretation, I think the Atheists are correct.

	30-10-2003 06:55									#224
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Because it is a stupid arguement to make. You honestly can not tell me with a straight face billboards and what not pose a signifigant hazard to traffic. PS If you can, you have more self-control than I do because I couldn't get through it without laughing.

I don't ride on interstates.

	30-10-2003 07:05									#225
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Let's tear down churches, synogues, and mosques that are off the side of the roads since they might offend some extreme atheists.

The safety issue is bullocks -- nothing but a facade.

	30-10-2003 07:13									#226
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Los Angeles would become what? Just "Los"?

Why not call it what eet ees, man? Los Pochos.

	30-10-2003 07:15									#227
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I really don't care about the supposed violation of the 1st Amendment, but it's fun to troll. I'm actually far more concerned with distractions to the idiot drivers I must navigate between. Heavy metal box v. bag of flesh are not odds I like.

Does Florida have open carry laws? So you could strap on a .45 with a shoulder holster? That'd clear 'em out of your path.

	30-10-2003 07:17									#228
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Does Florida have open carry laws? So you could strap on a .45 with a shoulder holster? That'd clear 'em out of your path.

I know it used to in the 80s.

	30-10-2003 07:17									#229
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quote: Originally posted by orange What if someone went to the roadside marker of a deceased individual and put something hateful? Should that be removed? If you agree to the removal of that, than why not the removal of the positive momentos. Who decides what is acceptable and what isn't? From a strictly literal interpretation, I think the Atheists are correct.

It's not the state's concern in particular.

	30-10-2003 07:18									#230
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I really don't care about the supposed violation of the 1st Amendment, but it's fun to troll. I'm actually far more concerned with distractions to the idiot drivers I must navigate between. Heavy metal box v. bag of flesh are not odds I like.

Idiot drivers should never drive, I agree -- but I'm not warming up to the violation of freedom of religion to make roads safer for these incompetents.

Rather, TAKE THOSE DAMN INCOMPETENTS OFF THE ROAD.

	30-10-2003 07:19									#231
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After rereading the thread, I'd just like to say that I'm glad to be in the category with Che and UR

	30-10-2003 07:20									#232
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Idiot drivers should never drive, I agree -- but I'm not warming up to the violation of freedom of religion to make roads safer for these incompetents.

It's not a violation of religion because you don't have a right to put up . . . well, anything on public property.

	30-10-2003 07:24									#233
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat It's not the state's concern in particular.

Isn't their argument that the state is paid to keep things off the roadways/road sides and should then clear them of these memorials which have been placed on PUBLIC property?

	30-10-2003 07:26									#234
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Nailing holes in the walls of public property by an individual who is not the owner of that property is illegal anyway -- jackass.

MrFun, that was just an example. If putting a hole in public property is so bad, lets just leave the cross standing up on a table, 'k?

	30-10-2003 07:28									#235
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does everyone keep missing the concept of PUBLIC vs. private land?

	30-10-2003 07:28									#236
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Rather, TAKE THOSE DAMN INCOMPETENTS OFF THE ROAD.

Whatever happened to your tolerance, MrFun? I hope it's not just a one-way street.

	30-10-2003 07:34									#237
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun The safety issue is bullocks -- nothing but a facade.

That typo is relatively innocuous, but imagine if somebody mixed the two words up in the other direction. The end of Psalm 50 would have rather interesting connotations...

	30-10-2003 07:34									#238
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quote: Originally posted by orange After rereading the thread, I'd just like to say that I'm glad to be in the category with Che and UR

I suppose wierd people tend to group together.

	30-10-2003 07:36									#239
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc I suppose wierd people tend to group together.

Bow before us, mundanes. We are your rightful imperatrixes and imperatores.

	30-10-2003 07:47									#240
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Men in white suits start chasing St. Leo to take him to a nice padded cell