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Imran Siddiqui is offline Imran Siddiqui

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I'd actually take the Jim Brown Cleveland Browns for running attack. '72 Miami had a great running attack, one of the best ever, but Brown's Browns () were phenomenal at it. Amazing O-Line and best RB of all time.

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I'll grant you that Csonka, Kiick, and Morris was a pretty amazing combo. The other teams you mentioned were basically one-back teams.

IIRC Roland Harper came very close to 1000 yards in tandem with Walter one year, pre-Ditka; Suhey was solid but never really came close. In Sayers' glory years, the FB was an afterthought. The year where both he and Piccolo did well was post-surgery for Sayers, and he wasn't the same guy. And I can't remember any other back on Cleveland.

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Coach Dan Reeves has been released by the Atlanta Falcons

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Flowery Branch, Ga. (Dec. 10, 2003) -- The Atlanta Falcons announced that Dan Reeves has been released from his contract effective immediately. Falcons defensive coordinator Wade Phillips, at Reeves' recommendation, was named interim head coach for the remaining three games of the season.

"Yesterday, I advised Dan that we've decided to bring in a new head coach beginning in the 2004 season," said Falcons owner and CEO Arthur M. Blank. "Dan asked to be released from his position immediately and we agreed to do so, even though our desire was for him to stay on through the rest of the season."

"We want to begin the process of searching for a new head coach in a thorough and honest manner," said Blank. "In order to do so, and as Dan and I previously discussed, I wanted to let him know of our decision first. This conversation also puts the club in a position to operate in an open and honest environment during the final weeks of the season, and to proceed with our plans for the future."

After nearly seven seasons, the Dan Reeves era is over in Atlanta as the head coach was released from his contract. Reeves led the Falcons to the playoffs twice, including Super Bowl XXXIII. Reeves, who earned his 200th career win in 2003, will be replaced by defensive coordinator Wade Phillips.

The decision to hire a new head coach beginning in the 2004 season was based on a number of factors related to the long-term plans and success of the franchise. "This decision is purely tied to our plans for the future success of our franchise," Blank said. "We have made significant commitments to our fans and the community, and significant changes throughout other areas of the club. Now is the right time to set the course for our future in the coaching area, as well."

It is anticipated that the selection of a new head coach will be announced after the end of the regular season.

"Dan's record in the NFL speaks for itself," said Blank. "He has had a long and successful NFL career as a head coach, assistant coach and player, and his Hall-of-Fame-caliber accomplishments will have a place in the NFL record and history books for years to come.

We are grateful to Dan for his many contributions to the Falcons during his seven seasons with us," Blank continued. "Through his commitment and character, he has earned the respect of our entire organization."

Reeves began his head coaching career in Denver where he compiled a 117-79-1 record from 1981-1992. He led the Broncos to three Super Bowl berths, four AFC Championship games, five AFC West Division titles, and eight winning seasons, while also being named Coach of the Year in 1984, 1989 and 1991. In 1993, Reeves was named head coach of the New York Giants where, during his first year, he earned Coach of the Year honors for a fourth time, taking the Giants to an 11-5 mark, including a wild-card playoff victory.

Reeves came to Atlanta in 1997 after a four-year stint as head coach of the New York Giants. In his second season with the Falcons, Reeves was named Coach of the Year for the fifth time in his career as he led the Falcons to the NFC West title with a 14-2 record and the club's first ever Super Bowl appearance. During the 2002 season, Reeves led the Falcons to a berth in the NFC playoff field as a wild-card participant, when the Falcons became the first team ever to defeat the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field in a playoff game.

Reeves leaves the Falcons having achieved the milestone of becoming just the seventh coach in NFL history to reach 200 victories in his career. He also holds the distinction of being the most-winning active coach in the league. Overall, Reeves has accumulated 12 winning seasons as head coach, and participated in 50 playoff games and nine Super Bowls as an NFL player, assistant coach and head coach.

Wade Phillips has 27 years of NFL coaching experience, including three seasons as head coach for the Buffalo Bills from 1998 through 2000 and two seasons as head coach of the Denver Broncos during the 1993 and 1994 seasons. He served as interim head coach in New Orleans for the final four games of the 1985 season. This is his second season with the Falcons.

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Would be a definite upgrade in Chicago...

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And I can't remember any other back on Cleveland.


Did you really any other ? When you star RB stayed in on basically every play and had an avg of 5.2 for his career, I wouldn't have taken him out .

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As for Reeves, what a GREAT week for the Falcons . Vick has a great game and Reeves gets fires... best week of the season, BY FAR!

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Jacksonville has the potential to be an awesome team.

They have a young QB who is quite good
They have an excellent O Line (Against TB I saw two occasions at least when Meester (the Center) didn't have anyone to block).
They have a good defence
They just need an effective running back.

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They just need an effective running back.


*cough* Fred Taylor

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I think the only thing they do have is an effective RB .

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I think Tim Hasselbeck will take over the starting QB job at Washington permanently next year. He had a couple of good starts in replacement of Ramsey. He'll start the rest of the Skins games this year and continue to do well. I'm actually a bit worried about the Eagles season finale vs. Skins now that I know he will be starting.

TH never got into a regular season game as a practice squad player with the Eagles but it was clear from preseason games he got into the past couple years that he had the skills to be an NFL quartback. In fact, I don't understand why teams aren't knocking down the doors for our 2 QB backups: Koy Detmer and AJ Feeley. They are better than half the starting QBs in the NFL right now.

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I think Tim Hasselbeck will take over the starting QB job at Washington permanently next year. He had a couple of good starts in replacement of Ramsey.


I doubt it. Ramsey has HUGE upside. He's gonna be a very good QB.

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Vick has a great game
16/33 for 179 yards and 5.42 yds per pass with 0 td's and 1 INT is a great game?

big deal, he's the most overrated player in the NFL... oooh he can scramble and get 145 yards. I'll laugh when someone hits him and ends his career.

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I think Tim Hasselbeck will take over the starting QB job at Washington permanently next year. He had a couple of good starts in replacement of Ramsey.


I doubt it. Ramsey has HUGE upside. He's gonna be a very good QB.



Well, you never know. They said the same thing about Jeff George at one time.

Hasselbeck is an NFL player and if he plays well in the rest of the skins games this season he deserves to compete for the starting job there.

He's a survivor just like his wife, the lovely Elizabeth Filarski from Survivor II.

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He's a survivor just like his wife, the lovely Elizabeth Filarski from Survivor II.
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16/33 for 179 yards and 5.42 yds per pass with 0 td's and 1 INT is a great game?


You forgot the 141 yards rushing, and leading them to a win.

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he's the most overrated player in the NFL


Overrated means not as good as the hype. Vick lives up to the hype (and more), especially considering this is his first start of his 2nd year.

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I'll laugh when someone hits him and ends his career.


You mean like what happened with Randall Cunningham? Oh wait.

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You forgot the 141 yards rushing, and leading them to a win.
[quote]no I mentioned that... oops I said 145... BTW, he didn't lead them to a win. I watched that game. In fact, he threw the interception that lead to Carolina tying the game. It was Atlanta's Defense that score the winning TD by another interception.
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Overrated means not as good as the hype. Vick lives up to the hype (and more), especially considering this is his first start of his 2nd year.

maybe in the minds of falcon fans and the Vick asslicking society on the national networks, but people who KNOW football recognize Vick is an average passing QB. It was sickening listening to Paul Maguire praising Vick when he threw a ball 20 feet over the receivers head on one play. "It was just a flick of the wrist"... YEAH and he missed you dope... And I used to have respect for ESPN announcers.
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You mean like what happened with Randall Cunningham? Oh wait.
Randall Cunningham... and how many Super Bowls did he win?

Vick's already had one injury. He'll get another one in the next two years. He'll slow down, year after year, until he turns into Kordell Stewart. Only Vick won't ever make it to the Super Bowl.

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It was sickening listening to Paul Maguire praising Vick when he threw a ball 20 feet over the receivers head on one play. "It was just a flick of the wrist"... YEAH and he missed you dope... And I used to have respect for ESPN announcers.


Yeah, it was hilarious listening to North and the boys trash the asslicking society broadcasting that game. They were even giving credit to Vick on some defensive plays because of his inspiration. I almost drove off the road I was laughing so hard.

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YEAH and he missed you dope... And I used to have respect for ESPN announcers.
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It took you this long to realize Maguire is an idiot?



ACK!

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'e's got taste too.

Sad that he's stuck in Seattle.

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Ugh! They fired Reeves. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...ired/index.html

Grossman will start for the Bears on Sunday. Let's see if he is any good or whether the Bears wasted another draft pick on a quarterback.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...n.ap/index.html

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'e's got taste too.

Sad that he's stuck in Seattle.

She's married to the Washington QB, not the Seattle one.

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People who KNOW football recognize Vick is an average passing QB.


He's definetly above average (he had an 81.6 QB rating last year), but when did this become a question of Vick as JUST a 'passing' QB? Or are you trying to change the debate because you can't stand on what you originally said.

Vick is a wonderful QB. He has average accuracy, above average throwing arm, and wonderful running ability.

And remember, he left college in his sophomore year and this is his third year in the league. HE'S ONLY 23 YEARS OLD! (He was born less than a month after me). Accuracy improves as QB's mature. Just look at Farve.

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Randall Cunningham... and how many Super Bowls did he win?


For a while, Cunningham was one of the most feared QBs in the league. Of course Cunningham didn't have half the talent Vick has.

And if we are going by Super Bowls make a good QB, I guess that means you consider Marino to be some hack .

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Vick's already had one injury. He'll get another one in the next two years. He'll slow down, year after year, until he turns into Kordell Stewart.


Yeah, and the injury he got was a freak one, caused by the turf, not another player. He may get another injury, but it doesn't look like it'll slow him down. Look at how fast and quick he was in his first start after a bad leg injury.

Add to that fact that he was definetly rusty... playing his first game in months. He should be BETTER in the upcoming weeks.

I'm gonna love rubbing Vick's MVP awards in your face over the next 15 years, Sava .

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They were even giving credit to Vick on some defensive plays because of his inspiration.


You have to watch the Falcons to realize they were definetly correct. The Falcons without Vick played horrible, unemotional defense. That added to the fact that the backup QBs played so bad that the D was on the field all the time and you had a recipe for disaster. Vick, not only pumped up the entire team, but actually had some sustained drives, giving the defense some time to rest.

So yea, I'd give Vick some credit for the D as well. That is one of the only ways to describe how a defense that makes Chargers D look like a bunch of pro-bowls suddenly stops Stephen Davis cold... damn.

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Ugh! They fired Reeves.


THANK GOD!! Maybe now a real coach, who will set Vick free will come in. Remember what happened to Elway after Reeves left?

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well Reeves told the owners if they were going to fire him at the end of the season, then they should just fire him now- as that would be better.

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Yeah, what a *****. I mean, Reeves asked the owner what he was going to do at the end of the year, and Arthur Blank (the owner) didn't want to lie. Reeves basically told the players to **** themselves.

Reeves

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I've amended my thoughts on Reeves and the Bears.

Looking at Reeves' and Ditka's records, it's clear that you want a coach prior to his heart attack.

Post-cardiac lifestyle restrictions on hardball, emotional coaches turns them into wimpy, average coaches.

Has Dennis Green had a heart attack yet?

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Hmmm, that's very interest -Jrabbit. I guess Vermeil hasn't had a heart attack, but he did turn from a hardball, emotional coach to a wimpy, emotional coach and he's doing ok .

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Oh, and those snickering about comments of ATL's D getting better with Vick, here are comments from Dr. Z on CNNSI (who some of you respect):

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Gosh can one guy, I mean, only one, change a team so completely? Evidently he can. Yeah, I could quibble and say Michael Vick's passing was way off Sunday night, but so what? Did you see the faces of those fans? Did you see the way the Falcons' defense was playing? How can a QB make the defense so much better? "Because it's easy to play defense like this," said tackle Ed Jasper. "It's harder when the other team has 10 minutes more of possession time than you do."


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...ings/index.html

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Hmmm, that's very interest -Jrabbit. I guess Vermeil hasn't had a heart attack, but he did turn from a hardball, emotional coach to a wimpy, emotional coach and he's doing ok .


That completely supports my theory.

Heart attack = time to say b'bye to NFL coaching.

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NFL to change Monday Night Football format?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...day.ap/?cnn=yes

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time for a new week.

ESPN has a story about Vanderjadt- the Indy kicker. You know what that means. His perfect season ends this week.

I really don't know who to pick on that game. The spread is a bit high.

 
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