14-12-2003 14:12									#391
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okay week 15 games. Many playoff scenarios, I won't go into them here.

Steelers at the Jets. Nothing real important about this game.

Atlanta at Indianpolis. Atlanta has that special something now. Indy coming off a big win...

Minnesota at Chicago- hmm. The Bears really suck. The Vikings defense sucks, but they only have to stop one player.

Seattle at St. Louis. Can Seattle win a road game? stay tuned

Jacksonville at New England. Can anyone stop New England now?

Houton at Tampa Bay- one team still has QB problems. The other team has problems of its own.

San Fransisco at Cincy- I predicted Cincy to go down last week. Can they bounce back as playoff hopeful team should? The 49rs haven't won a road game yet either.

Buffalo at Tennesee. Bledsoe has always been overrated. 'nuff said

Detroit at Kansas City- go ahead and chalk up a win for KC right now. You heard me, I'm going to lay everything on the line and say KC will win this game. But can they cover the insane spread?

Baltimore at Oakland- Raiders self destruct, coach gets fired. You know the story.

Cleveland at Denver- not much to say about this game.

Green Bay at San Diego- I would take San Diego, but they are putting Drew Brees back in, so I'm not so sure.

Carolina at Arizona- the Panthers are sliding, but surely they can't lose another game to the Cards can they?

Dallas at Washington- a classic NFC east matchup. I don't really care for Spurrier- you all know how I feel about him.

New York giants at New Orleans- Yawn. Yeah I know the saints can play good at times. but who cares, they aren't making the playoffs.

Philadelphia at Miami. Why are they complaining about Monday night games all the sudden? This season hasn't been too bad for Monday night games- aside from the Oakland games on the schedule. The NFL is lucky they are having such a great game this monday.

	14-12-2003 19:21									#392
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There are a lot of good games this week... and the playoff picture should start clearing up a little bit after the day is over.

More importantly for many here, most Fantasy Football league playoffs begin today as well.

Don't forget to make your picks in Pools, and to set your rosters for Fantasy...

	14-12-2003 22:14									#393
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Chicago finally gets to see what they drafted with Rex Grossman getting his first start in the NFL. He's got a strong arm, can move in the pocket... and he will need too since the Bears offensive line is riddled with injuries.

	14-12-2003 23:31									#394
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I got to make my picks this week and likely will be OK for the next week as well.

	15-12-2003 00:14									#395
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GO BEARS!!!

Whoo, they're up 10-0

	15-12-2003 00:23									#396
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Mike Vick watch: Halftime @ Indianapolis

2/12 25yrds 1 INT

	15-12-2003 00:26									#397
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Grossman looks solid. They've established the running game, and that has given him some time in the pocket.
Let's see if they can keep it up in the second half.

	15-12-2003 00:48									#398
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whoah! Mich Vick actually playing a good defense is being manhandled. Yes the Carolina front four is good, but their coverage isn't that great.

Maybe all the glowing talk about him about him being god will die down. Not likely.

	15-12-2003 00:49									#399
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Can someone tell me what the hell is happening in the ATL v IND game?

I just got these four plays on NFL gamecenter in a row:

J.Feely kicks -5 yards from ATL 30 to ATL 25, out of bounds.
J.Feely kicks 65 yards from ATL 30 to IND 5, out of bounds.
1-10-IND40 (15:00) T.McBride right guard to IND 43 for -3 yards (M.Washington). IND - Meadows (73) injured on play.
2-13-IND 43 (14:31) P.Manning pass to E.James to IND 47 for 4 yards (C.Draft).

	15-12-2003 00:51									#400
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And to add to the confusion Indianapolis just scored another TD.

	15-12-2003 00:58									#401
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the end result is all that matters. Indy TD. I suppose the one kick was blocked but called back on a penalty.

I'm so pissed at myself for changing my pick to Atlanta :idtiot:. Why do I never trust my instincts and go with my first pick of Indy? Arghh.

And I thought steve McNair would be starting. The Bill just ran another return in for a TD

	15-12-2003 01:18									#402
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It is official. Michael Vick is...

OVERRATED

	15-12-2003 01:45									#403
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quote: Originally posted by Frozzy It is official. Michael Vick is... OVERRATED

[get Limbaugh smear mode]

Racist!

[/get Limbaugh smear mode]

	15-12-2003 01:46									#404
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how about McNabb? after he was called overrated he's playing some of the best football of his career- though nothing will surpass that 4 TD's he has last year I'd imagine.

	15-12-2003 02:07									#405
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I was referring to all of the hype surrounding him and that he's the best QB in the league, etc. etc. etc.

at the end of the day, any QB who is 6/17 for only 47 yards had a crap game.

	15-12-2003 02:11									#406
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HAHAHAHHAH VIKINGS LOSE!!! DAUNTE CULPEPPER SUCKS RANDY MOSS IS A *****!!#@!#

Great game. Rex Grossman was decent in his debut. And Charles "P-Nut" Tillman took the potential winning TD out of Randy Mosses weak arms with 1 minute left in the 4th quarter. Randy Moss is a *****... plain and simple. He dropped 2 other balls earlier in the game because he was afraid of getting hit, he steps out of bounds well before the defender is close to making a tackle, and when he can't run away, he lays down instead of taking a hit and trying to get yards.

HAHAHAH Michael Vick SUCKS!

He's overrated (and not because the media wants a black QB to do well )... so far, 6 of 19, 47 yards passing, 2.47 yards per play...

oh wait he averaged 7.5 yards per rush! HE MUST BE THE GREATEST QB EVAR!

I saw one play on the highlights where Vick tried running out of the pocket, was chased down by a defensive lineman, AND STRIPPED OF THE BALL! HAHAHAH VICK YOU SUCK

This was a great week. The Lions are getting their asses whooped, overrated Vick got his ass kicked... the only way this week gets better is if the Packers get killed by the Chargers.

I really don't like the divisional format and how the playoff teams are picked. I think there should be 2 or maybe 3 divisions... probably 2... where the top 2 teams in each conference get in, then the rest are wild cards. Screw this divisional winner crap. If the Vikings and Packers, and maybe Panthers each go 8-8, then at least two of them would get into the playoffs. That's crap. I think there should be only 2 divisions, then there can't be any crap teams in the playoffs. It's going to be a shame if a 9-7 team sits out the playoffs because an 8-8 division winner gets in.

	15-12-2003 02:16									#407
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Hey, I'm a Vikings fan and what can I say? They suck. Pure and simple. More like the purple pansies.

Whoever wins the NFC North is going to get their nuts cracked in the first round, though.

Gatekeeper

	15-12-2003 02:18									#408
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Niner vs. Bengals... Good game Sucks my team lost, but it was thouroughly enjoyable... Anyone who says the salary cap ruined football is full of it.

	15-12-2003 02:18									#409
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quote: Whoever wins the NFC North is going to get their nuts cracked in the first round, though.

	15-12-2003 02:26									#410
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WHOO BEARS



If the Packers get into the playoffs, they're going to go far. Just you wait and see.

	15-12-2003 02:27									#411
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True...

	15-12-2003 02:50									#412
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Vick should be a running back. He may not be good enough to be a QB. But most likely he is still in pain. He may still improve.

	15-12-2003 02:51									#413
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OK:

Bucs win, check
Vikings loss, check
Seahawks loss, check

Need:

Cowboys loss
Saints loss
Packers loss

We're not done yet...

	15-12-2003 02:54									#414
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yes you are

	15-12-2003 03:14									#415
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Another Patriots victory... yawn...

	15-12-2003 03:25									#416
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reismark... you guys just need Carolina to keep losing and the Bucs to keep winning... I'd much rather see Tampa Bay in the playoffs than the Panthers. I still hate Jacksonville and Carolina. They should not have NFL franchises... too many damn teams... too much parity. The league is watered down. Tagliabue won't be happy until every team goes 8-8.

	15-12-2003 03:28									#417
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quote: really don't like the divisional format and how the playoff teams are picked. I think there should be 2 or maybe 3 divisions... probably 2... where the top 2 teams in each conference get in, then the rest are wild cards. Screw this divisional winner crap. If the Vikings and Packers, and maybe Panthers each go 8-8, then at least two of them would get into the playoffs. That's crap. I think there should be only 2 divisions, then there can't be any crap teams in the playoffs. It's going to be a shame if a 9-7 team sits out the playoffs because an 8-8 division winner gets in.

I'd just like to be gone of divisions all together. Just have one AFC division and one NFC division. Top 6 from each progress to the playoffs.

	15-12-2003 03:44									#418
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well I'd like two divisions just for scheduling purposes... grouping together regional matchups...

	15-12-2003 04:12									#419
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the Panthers are losing to the Chargers?

they truelly were overrated early in the season.

	15-12-2003 04:13									#420
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and Seattle and San Fransisco have yet to win a road game.