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Vesayen is offline Vesayen
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Also, if anyone knows who said this, I will be quite surprised

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Every individual should be a social democrat at heart.

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Being a libertarian requires a desire for freedom and a rejection of hypocrisy.

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I'd say that many more people than you would expect ARE Libertarians at heart, without realizing it.

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I never could understand why people want others to control them. I have come to believe that those who oppose individual liberty think that they are worthy to control my life for me. Thanks, but please mind your own business.

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What's a libretarian?

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The desire to be free from books?

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I never could understand why people want others to control them. I have come to believe that those who oppose individual liberty think that they are worthy to control my life for me. Thanks, but please mind your own business.


Someone's venomous today.

I mean, seriously, when have you ever been controlled? There is no individual liberty when lynch mobs and vigilantes are running around instead of tax-funded and constitution-bound police officers.

It's my business too if you want me to die should I break my leg, have less than 100% of everyone taught to write and derive, or do nothing against irrational discrimination.

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Who said you cant be libretarian and support police? Anarchists dont want police, not libretarians.

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I've got a problem with authority, and those who want to tell me what to do.

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So do I. My government doesn't tell me what to do. If yours does, change it.

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Of course, with all the weapons I have available I'll easily be able to overthrow the goverment...

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So do I. My government doesn't tell me what to do.


Yeah, right So drugs are legal in your country?

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So if we are for individual liberty we support lynch mobs? I build houses for a living among other things. In California every aspect of home (your OWN home)construction is controlled by some beauracrat who can read rules but has no commons sense. Some people require a big mommy to watch over them I guess. But I resent being told what to do when I know more about building than they do. That is one reason why I moved to rural Tennessee. People here still at least have an idea about what it is like to be free. I am a libertarian at heart but please don't confuse that with anarchy. Free people make rules to control those who take advantage of a free society. The laws are supposed to protect freedom not oppose it.

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everyone is a libertarian untuil the reality of life hits them. (same goes for true communism)

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Libertarianism only works well when you have a gun.

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Then it doesnt work very well

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Not if everyone has one

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First thing id do if i had a gun is, id try to prevent everyone else from getting one.

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I am not a true libertarian. That is why I said "in heart" but it woud be tempting to rid the world of some social predators once in a while. Of course we would have to start at the top...

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YAY! Lincoln is gonna get rid of Bush!

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In California every aspect of home (your OWN home)construction is controlled by some beauracrat who can read rules but has no commons sense. Some people require a big mommy to watch over them I guess.


So caveat emptor? You may not like regulation, but the result of no-regulations is always the same, massive fraud and lots of little people getting hurt. The pupose of regulation isn't to protect me from myself. It's to protect me from you.

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Why does that remind me of Dr. Kings quote, " The law may hnot be able to make the white man love me, but it can stop him from lynching me?"

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You may not like regulation, but the result of no-regulations is always the same, massive fraud and lots of little people getting hurt.


Obviously, then, we should put those who commit fraud in prison, with the rest of the thieves (including the starving ones).

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Being a libertarian requires a desire for freedom and a rejection of hypocrisy.


What a hypocritical statement.

Oh, the irony.

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First thing id do if i had a gun is, id try to prevent everyone else from getting one.


Of course you would, you're a liberal.

Theben, are you going to support your accusation?

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Is that some combination of a librarian, a briton, and a right-wing anarchist?

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Everyone should be.... hmmm... but how do we make em?

I know, let's take all their money, then partition it out only to those who pledge allegiance to us and our Libertarian utopia...... no wait... that's how the Democrats operate......

I know! Lets just throw everyone in jail who shows any signs of being different!... Oh wait... that's how the Republicans operate.

I guess I'll just have to live life as an individual, and fight every attempt at eroding my rights. Enough people do that, and we won't have to worry about the control freaks.

 
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