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Swing Low, Sweet Chariots.
Aug 1999
time: 05:31
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Good enough now, in fact, to be playing in front of Larkham in his current form. But, of course, the injury kills that possibility! Not that it would've happened anyway. |
Saves Eddie from some difficult questions from the press anyway.
He has gone for the Smith-Waugh combination again. Not sure this is the right type of combination against the ABs – is it down to Lyons to drive McCaw off the ball then?
Not hope. Pray. 
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You can ring them. From work, of course. |
Of course. 
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I do. There are some very good young players in that side. Hope for the future, perhaps. |
They have something very solid to build on now at least. Some of their youngsters do look very promising as you say (from memory the lock Sidoli, scrummy Cooper and that new flanker – Thomas, I think – all look the real deal. Stephen Jones may yet make a decent stand off given time).
Key to their long term chances will be who they replace Hansen with in the summer.
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Was that who Lomu ran over the top of? I thought it was Catt. |
Mainly Underwood – but he probably caught Catt too. Only Carling and the Locks (!) managed to bring the big man down properly that day.
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They asked him to spread his cheeks, and, quite appropriately for him, he opened his mouth. |
Whereas if they had asked him to speak of course…
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But Les Grenouilles play a SH style of rugby anyway |
They are far too good in the scrum, ruck and the maul to deserve that kind of insult from you. 
O’Briens weaknesses there for you in a nutshell.
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He's also probably not far wrong, certainly about the Scotland bit. |
We shall see. I cannot see you troubling the All Blacks – but then I thought the Boks might ask questions of them too so what do I know?
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They asked what it was. He said a brain. He was fined for signing a false declaration. |
The boy has certainly left an impression on you with his silky international diplomacy skills. 
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Well, I’m supporting England in that game, especially after how the stuck record has continuously bagged our forward pack since day 1. |
Yes that Tamerlin has really had it in for your forwards hasn’t he? 
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With the way the England midfield has been labouring away, the pressure has been piling onto Wilko with no outlet. Catt seems to offer more as a playmaker and also takes some of the responsibility |
To be honest I think you have called this exactly right. I’d be very surprised if Catt doesn’t replace Tindall this weekend.
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so your boys really need to step it up or I'd have to say the French are going to roll ya... |
Very true, although I can’t say the French forwards are quite our equal – certainly not in the tight five. The backs are a worry – but having Balshaw and Lewsey back makes me happier. It’s no secret that the only time these two have had a decent run together with Robinson on his preferred wing we’ve looked most comfortable. Lewsey is also better defensively than Robinson is at 15 – and sadly I suspect we may need that.
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anything can happen now and although the frogs are favourites next week you do know what it's like to beat them on a regular basis, so maybe, just maybe..... |
We are old sparring partners – and oft times the underdog upsets the apple cart. Just look at the fight going on off the field for ‘underdog’ status right now!
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I would assume that you will take Monday off either way. For different reasons. |
Already booked in fact. Time to think on defeat – or time to avoid crowing excessively.
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They also knew what it was like to thump the serious crap out of Wales on a regular basis. |
They actually gave us as hard a physical challenge as France did in the six nations earlier in the year – their best performance in that tournament by far. They would have raised their game for us even without that AB game to spur them on – it’s England-Wales and they never take that lightly.
Our best hope is that the French boys run out thinking of the Final maybe.
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Havak
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Swing Low, Sweet Chariots.
Aug 1999
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Thank you Havak, you spare me the pain to answer this! :contempt: |
My pleasure.
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Is there a referee in the Stadium? |
I’d rather have Nigel Williams at the helm.
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Have I been good enough Havak? |
Vraiment superbe mon ami
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Forwards, what forwards? |
There are some superb talents in their pack – and some significant weaknesses (the props for example?).
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But they have to get near him - past McCaw, et al - first. |
So few words for what is effectively a huge ask of the boys.
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The AB lineout was good against the Boks, but it has been dodgy before that. Eddie must be hoping it will be again. |
The dodgy line outs before the Boks were probably just complacency on their part. Their line out has looked vulnerable on occasions over the last year - when the more physical sides have got in amongst them and competed. Maybe it is time for Plank to step up and do his stuff? It is certainly where his main strength lies.
Still at least Healey should be flying home today.
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I wasn't trying to insult the French team, I was trying to insult Mr . And it worked! |
I had to step in – early crawling if you like for the Entente Cordiale effort that will be needed one way or the other next week.
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Nope, this referee will put both team in a paddy. |
You have literary competition Finbar. This was some Pun by Tamerlin – I know that I couldn’t craft a pun in my second language (I am fluent in “*issedasarat”).
Now Tamerlin is talking about putting them into a pâtée? Amazon or postal workers? You’ve got me totally smock ravelled! 
*edit* Have you noticed how the team painted as arrogant by the world (and their dog) has resolutely made sure they have not got involved in pre-match nationalistic jibes. Whilst certain teams and coaches have sprayed like a tomcat in new territory (step forward Eddie) the English squad have been very careful to be respectful of their opponents. So here again is a good example of that:
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"I don't think we will be able to pull off a 'we didn't play well, but we still managed to win' game, France are too good a side for that to happen."
"France are always an exciting team. I've grown up watching them play. They're a world-class team with a great World Cup record, you just have to look at the last World Cup.
"They didn't set their Pool alight, but they got to the semi-final and probably produced the performance of the tournament." |
And who said this - why Jonno of course. Care to give such a lesson in diplomacy to Mr Harinordoquoy please Tamerlin?
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Tamerlin
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Toulouse (South-western France)
Apr 2002
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Yes, indeed. Hence, obviously, the inevitability of Havak's familiarity with it. |
Note you seem familiar with it yourself.
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Now go to bed! What sort of example are you setting your tętard! |
A very bad one I think! 
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Edit. BTW, nice use of the possessive aspotrophe. The tętard might be going to grow up sleep-deprived under your influence, but at least he will be literate.  |
Thanks! I am doing my best to develop the tadpole's ability to think, talk, write, read and listen beyond the terrible level displayed by his fellow creatures. Though it might look as an easy task, it is not when you consider the bad influence coming from the said fellow creatures and the daily bombing they are experiencing through the television, the radio and the various commercials.
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
time: 06:31
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Originally posted by Havak
Inevitably I did indeed understand this immediately. We should however have made it Tamerlin’s round until he twigged it – shame you gave the explanation so quickly. |
I knew Tamerlin wouldn't shout if a shark bit him.
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So tell me – where dealing with a named individuals possessive apostrophe does it come before the final s? I have always struggled with possessive apostrophe’s as they seem almost as random as Paddy O’Brien’s law interpretations. |
It's pretty simple in that it's logical. Which a lot of grammar isn't.
Singular: Child's toy.
Singular: Klaus' hat.
Plural: Children's toys. (Because "children" is already a plural)
Plural: Horses' bridles.
So if it's a singular that doesn't end with s, it's apostrophe-s.
If it's a singular that ends with s, just add an apostrophe.
If it's a plural that doesn't end with s, it's apostrophe-s.
If it's a plural that ends with s, just add an apostrophe.
The other common error is confusing "it's" and "its". The former is an abbreviation of "it is"; the latter a possessive pronoun - "his job", "her job", "its job".
There is also, of course, what's called the greengrocer's apostrophe, where an apostrophe is used on every plural word - apple's, onion's, et al.
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Risky to have no specialist lock though? |
You're overloaded with flankers, I'd've thought. You wouldn't want an injury in your second row. Other than that, pretty predictable. It's a must win.
Oh, and it was Mike Catt whom Lomu ran over the top of - terrible sentence construction but it's very late! - on the way to his try in the '95 World Cup. I saw it replayed today.
Oh, and speaking of Mr Catt, I was hunting through my dictionary today, as I am wont to do, and I found a new definition of irony:
irony - noun - When a South African-born player saves the arse of Havak's beloved England team.
Presumably, if Mr Abbott had joined Mr Catt in the process, it would be, so to speak, doubly ironic. As it is, with Mr Abbott being a pretty ordinary player, we'll just have to settle for simple irony.
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finbar
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Castiglion Fiorentino, Italy
Jan 1970
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Note you seem familiar with it yourself. |
I've spent a couple of years in Havak's close company. Eventually, the fumes overcome one!
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Thanks! I am doing my best to develop the tadpole's ability to think, talk, write, read and listen beyond the terrible level displayed by his fellow creatures. Though it might look as an easy task, it is not when you consider the bad influence coming from the said fellow creatures and the daily bombing they are experiencing through the television, the radio and the various commercials. |
Tell me about it! The english language - writen and spoken - is going to hell in a handcart! Presumably French is, too. I'm totally in favour of ridding French of all that cheap, cruddy Franglais (or whatever the word is for it). You'd better be, too!
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